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  1. #221
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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aezashya View Post
    I'm a fairly new player (playing since late July) and I'm loving my WHM and I'm very happy playing a healer
    And that is great!
    But the problem is, the higher you get with your WHM (or any healer for that matter) the more powerful you become at handling incoming damage while the damage stays the same, relatively speaking. And the better you get at using all your tools, the more time you will spent pushing one button over and over.

    Optimizing doesn't lead to more engagement, it only leads to more boredom.
    Which is completely backwards.
    That the only way to stay engaged and on your toes is by playing poorly yourself and hoping for bad players to eat aoes to break the Glare/ Malefic/ Broil routine is so wrong, I can't even find words for it.

    I want to work for my numbers. BOTH numbers, healing and dps.
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  2. #222
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    EriShvakh's Avatar
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    Eri Shvakh
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Yeah, I quit almost completely. I've been AST main and after rework I have no interest in playing AST again. Other healing jobs are just not fun for me so I mostly play dps or tank. And since Yoshi seem to be happy with the rework, I doubt I will touch healing until they come up with the new job.
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  3. #223
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    ZeroFool's Avatar
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    Alden'ir Colescant
    World
    Kujata
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lodi View Post
    So I stopped playing for a few weeks, then came back to play with DPS/Tank classes. And goodness, it's another world.

    I feel a lot better playing RDM and occasionally using Vercure to help the healer, it's so much better than spamming Stone XVIII and using one of my dozen OGCDs when the tank stubs his toe.

    Maybe 5.1 will make me want to play again, but I don't really have my hopes up after yet another LL with nothing for us.
    I relate to this note, by note. When I opted to resub, I decided to stop pursuing healing altogether due to its baggage and resolved to become another DPS main. I gravitated to the jobs with the closest thing to support skills as I still wanted to be able to help others out. RDM had both a Cure and a Raise which seemed good enough. The idea of using Dualcast both offensively and supportively and chaining Raises did a lot to feed the need to feel 'heroic' and not at all the errand-boy who needed the team to justify existing that healing made me feel prior to returning.
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  4. #224
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    Saefinn's Avatar
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    Character
    Yesunova Hotgo
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    And that is the interesting point about RDM and I am finding with DNC too, they're not even complicated jobs, but they are engaging and feel nice to play. They're examples of where SE can make jobs that are both fun to play and also, simple.

    My friend is Levelling MCH after having taken WHM to 80 and through MSQ and other ShB content and she's finding content fun again.

    It is night and day between playing healer and a DPS.
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  5. #225
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    Sloprano's Avatar
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    Character
    Quilia Labro
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroFool View Post
    I gravitated to the jobs with the closest thing to support skills as I still wanted to be able to help others out.
    and

    Quote Originally Posted by Saefinn View Post

    My friend is Levelling MCH after having taken WHM to 80 and through MSQ and other ShB content and she's finding content fun again.

    It is night and day between playing healer and a DPS.
    This resonates a whole lot with my impression that early Scholar was a "full" job that stood on it's own two feet, like DPS jobs described here, not something that was fitted into a Role. It had a large and varied skillset that some just happend to be restorative which made healing a natural fit. I'm reminded of an interview they said MCH got a redesign because it didn't feel fun anymore. I'd wish they'd have that same kind of enthusiasm for all the job's identity.
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  6. #226
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    Thoosa's Avatar
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    Character
    Thoosa Starburst
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Healing in savage (e2s and above) is pretty frustrating since it’s very easy to get killed by a really stupid mechanic and if a healer dies it seems to be usually a wipe and then people just get annoyed - if you suffer a dps or tank death it can be recoverable. Also healer dps just feels weak and boring now so it just feels like lots of stress and no fun.

    Also you can tell that people are gravitating away from healing since PF groups seem to be mostly waiting a long time for healers (in stormblood it was tanks) and often duty finder stuff is instant pop when playing healer.
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  7. #227
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    RegularJoe's Avatar
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    Character
    Now Loading
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Hmm... for the most part. I threw down my books for the gun again, and I feel much better for it. I'm only healing for friends now, or to help the poor saps on PF looking for a quick queue. I'm pretty jaded with Healing Jobs in XIV at the moment. Every non-healer thinks it's fine, but we're just the elderly supervisors who have been forced to take our seat in the corner and watch everyone else have fun, and I'm tired of it. I want fun, too.

    I need to finish lvling my WAR for Tank queuing, but I'm finding ShB WAR pretty stale. I might switch my tank to GNB. Not too sure yet.
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  8. #228
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I'm mostly only doing it for tomes and queue times. Beyond that I have other more involving games to play.

    Also affected me buying the next expansion until this is resolved. One expansion? Fine. Two expansions? Less fine. If they dare do 3 expansions well... I know of other games and devs with less contempt for a role.
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  9. #229
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    Renka777's Avatar
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    Character
    Renka Shimizu
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    i recently switched back to Ast,i got so bored of Whm after weeks

    the healing kit is not that bad actually (especially after the buffs),i feel like i still i can do as many thing as i want but the card system need too much attention that i literally "stop" using it when i need to do mecanics or important healing in savage,sure i lose in rdps but i rather do that then getting myself completely pissed off again by this job

    i would have loved to try maining Sch but my co healer friend is already on it :/
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    Last edited by Renka777; 09-21-2019 at 09:31 AM.

  10. #230
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    Billythepancake's Avatar
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    Character
    Evelynn Outreguerlain
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Renka777 View Post
    i recently switched back to Ast,i got so bored of Whm after weeks

    the healing kit is not that bad actually (especially after the buffs),i feel like i still i can do as many thing as i want but the card system need too much attention that i literally "stop" using it when i need to do mecanics or important healing in savage,sure i lose in rdps but i rather do that then getting myself completely pissed off again by this job

    i would have loved to try maining Sch but my co healer friend is already on it :/
    I wouldn't stress too much about not being able to play SCH, besides having more oGCD healing spells, it doesn't play differently from WHM at this point.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

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