Yo those QOL for DOH & DOL

[Zarkovitch]

Are sugoi as fudge

for odd patch I'm very please by those changes

Quick gathering
Better Quick synthesis
Easier Crafting
Better shards? (Hope it works with crystals)
Sneak

SE you nailed it on that QOL. It second best thing happening on QOL right after Auto Attack changes.

[Silica-chan]

Are sugoi as fudge

for odd patch I'm very please by those changes

Quick gathering
Better Quick synthesis
Easier Crafting
Better shards? (Hope it works with crystals)
Sneak

SE you nailed it on that QOL. It second best thing happening on QOL right after Auto Attack changes.

While I agree with you I think alot of people will be upset about the crafting changes.

[REPROBEAN_CHILD]

While I agree with you I think alot of people will be upset about the crafting changes.

I'm not. The tree is a great idea, even better if I can calculate item stacks

[Kohdo]

It's a shame unnecessary simplification has been a focal point of a lot of the changes in Shadowbringers.

[dinnertime]

Oh no crafting and gathering suddenly became a lot easier, convenient and more accessible than it already is how sad... :^(

[linay]

It's a shame unnecessary simplification has been a focal point of a lot of the changes in Shadowbringers.

It serves a purpose that they desire to achieve, therefore it is not unnecessary. However, it remains to be seen whether it will be effective in achieving said purpose without any significant cost.

[Zfz]

Crafting actions definitely need some consolidation and streamlining. I'm not logged on right now but I remember there are some actions that outright replace a lower level action, like Careful Synthesis II completely replacing Careful Synthesis. I also remember having trouble fitting everything inside 3 bars when on my specialist classes.

As to simplification, well, it's clear anyone complaining about simplification didn't actually watch the Live Letter. They specifically listed improvements for the "avid crafters", i.e. more difficult recipes and so on, as a separate bullet point.

So the overall change is to make it easier to start crafting, while also tidying up a lot of the clutter caused by the patches just adding things on top, and finally expanding the end-game crafting content to satisfy the avid crafters.

The recipe tree UI is also a long overdue change. The crafting log was never a good piece of UI in terms of usability. I just hope they didn't stop at the tree display but also overhauled the prehistoric design of the crafting log. That thing seriously reminds me of the MS-DOS days, when we built nested menus to run in 80x25 text mode.

[frostmagemari]

Honestly, i'm skeptical of the implied changes. I've been finding crafting too easy to succeed at since the end of Stormblood and subsequent launch of Shadowbringers; and by succeed, i don't just mean being able to craft something, i mean how easy it is to HQ something from even zero HQ mats.
Will these changes be good? Who can say.. i am skeptical though, especially since I've enjoyed since the relaunch of ARR and i'd rather it not get made even easier than it is now.

As to simplification, well, it's clear anyone complaining about simplification didn't actually watch the Live Letter. They specifically listed improvements for the "avid crafters", i.e. more difficult recipes and so on, as a separate bullet point.

Unless you're seeing something different than me it says "New content for avid crafters", with nothing said about the difficulty of said crafts. That could just mean that they've added more things, not that the things they add will be more engaging or rewarding to do.

[Mistyregions]

Honestly, i'm skeptical of the implied changes. I've been finding crafting too easy to succeed at since the end of Stormblood and subsequent launch of Shadowbringers; and by succeed, i don't just mean being able to craft something, i mean how easy it is to HQ something from even zero HQ mats.
Will these changes be good? Who can say.. i am skeptical though, especially since I've enjoyed since the relaunch of ARR and i'd rather it not get made even easier than it is now.

Unless you're seeing something different than me it says "New content for avid crafters", with nothing said about the difficulty of said crafts. That could just mean that they've added more things, not that the things they add will be more engaging or rewarding to do.

How easy it is to craft HQ stuff from non HQ mats? For who? The beta testers who have been maxed lvled on everything? This update is for newer players who dont have anything leveled to engage them into the game and hook them on a Sub. It's not for you, I know that's hard to grasp.

[CookiesNCreams]

How easy it is to craft HQ stuff from non HQ mats? For who? The beta testers who have been maxed lvled on everything? This update is for newer players who dont have anything leveled to engage them into the game and hook them on a Sub. It's not for you, I know that's hard to grasp.

You really need to understand that you’re not the only one who pays for this game.