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    Zarkovitch's Avatar
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    Sid Zarkovitch
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    Yo those QOL for DOH & DOL

    Are sugoi as fudge

    for odd patch I'm very please by those changes

    Quick gathering
    Better Quick synthesis
    Easier Crafting
    Better shards? (Hope it works with crystals)
    Sneak

    SE you nailed it on that QOL. It second best thing happening on QOL right after Auto Attack changes.
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    Silica-chan's Avatar
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    Rena Kangawa
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zarkovitch View Post
    Are sugoi as fudge

    for odd patch I'm very please by those changes

    Quick gathering
    Better Quick synthesis
    Easier Crafting
    Better shards? (Hope it works with crystals)
    Sneak

    SE you nailed it on that QOL. It second best thing happening on QOL right after Auto Attack changes.
    While I agree with you I think alot of people will be upset about the crafting changes.
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    Lucienne Beauvilliers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silica-chan View Post
    While I agree with you I think alot of people will be upset about the crafting changes.
    I'm not. The tree is a great idea, even better if I can calculate item stacks
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silica-chan View Post
    While I agree with you I think alot of people will be upset about the crafting changes.
    It depends. If they make the 1-50 leveling process easier. It's whatever. That entry gate is a little annoying for newbie crafters. If they make the actual rotations at max level easier or make abilities more overpowered. That's where complaints will come in hard as it kind of stomps all over the crafter end game. Maybe Ishgard Restoration will be "harder" but I'd be shocked considering they want it to be accessible for everyone. Not to mention, Yoshida likes to overhype difficulty. I'll never forget when he warned tanks about pulling too much in Xelphatol, arguably the easiest dungeon in the whole expansion at the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mistyregions View Post
    How easy it is to craft HQ stuff from non HQ mats? For who? The beta testers who have been maxed lvled on everything? This update is for newer players who dont have anything leveled to engage them into the game and hook them on a Sub. It's not for you, I know that's hard to grasp.
    I can HQ every item currently in the game with zero HQ mats and no overmelds higher than grade IV with nearly 100% efficiency. It doesn't take much above that to guarantee it or you make one HQ mat like Dwarven Cotton and bam.
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 09-16-2019 at 04:05 AM.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    I can HQ every item currently in the game with zero HQ mats and no overmelds higher than grade IV with nearly 100% efficiency. It doesn't take much above that to guarantee it or you make one HQ mat like Dwarven Cotton and bam.
    You shouldn't have to spend millions of gil overmelding in order to make something. That's been and insane part of the game since HW.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    You shouldn't have to spend millions of gil overmelding in order to make something. That's been and insane part of the game since HW.
    Now with scrip, you don't! You can get, literally, all your materia needs fulfilled through crafting and gathering. No gil necessary.
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    U'tabia Aisibhirwyn
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    Mateus
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    Armorer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    Now with scrip, you don't! You can get, literally, all your materia needs fulfilled through crafting and gathering. No gil necessary.
    All throughout stormblood, i never spent a single gil through the marketboard on materia, except in very limited circumstances. I got all of my materia through the scrip vendors; Every week, i did turn ins and put it towards materia of some form (And doing it over the course of an expansion nets you even more materia as a backup).
    Sure, if you want to do it INSTANTLY, then yeah, you'll spend gil on the marketplace; but the same goes if you want to gear up instantly through gear, you have to pay for the lack of time being put in to purchasing gear through tomestones.
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    Last edited by frostmagemari; 09-16-2019 at 06:52 AM.

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    Brynhildr
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    You shouldn't have to spend millions of gil overmelding in order to make something. That's been and insane part of the game since HW.
    That's how they gatekeep you, it's like rich people IRL putting as many obstacles in the way of poor people from getting rich, they have to have systems implemented to help skew the odds in their favor, while telling you something about tight belt buckles and boot straps you need to pick yourself up by. They feel their little chunk of gil making potential is going to tank when a new system comes into place and their E-peen cant handle that.

    Not to mention they overvalue their worth and time and belive what they are doing is truly a skill when it is not, they tinker around on a crafting simulator for 15 minutes, make a macro and apply it in game. So with crafting being more accessible their over valuation will become very apparent and they no long can charge higher prices for absurd things.


    This all could have been avoided if overvaluing didnt happen and if the game had a bigger Gil sink to remove more gil from the system to better put items within range of newer players. Mostly overvaluation of services rendered.

    Aka full set of lvl 80 dps gear should only be about 20-30% over total gross income from MSQ start to finish. That puts content withing reach of newer players and give the ability for more people to have access to materials and equipment thus lowering the cost to produce and improving the overall quality of life per person.

    Come on people.
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    Last edited by Mistyregions; 09-16-2019 at 03:20 PM.

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    Kodoyaki Takoyaki
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    It's a shame unnecessary simplification has been a focal point of a lot of the changes in Shadowbringers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohdo View Post
    It's a shame unnecessary simplification has been a focal point of a lot of the changes in Shadowbringers.
    It serves a purpose that they desire to achieve, therefore it is not unnecessary. However, it remains to be seen whether it will be effective in achieving said purpose without any significant cost.
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