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  1. #111
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    The only way the gilseller / botting issue ends, is if YOU the players STOP BUYING IT!

    If they dont make money, they dont bother and move on to the next game.
    No, this is not a valid statement because it implies some level of control over the playerbase. We cannot control the actions of RandomPlayer123 therefore if this is the solution then the botting issue will never end. We need to get SE to PREVENT the botting situation by making it so players can't do it in the first place, or having a handle on stopping it before players can purchase.

    Blaming the players for buying Gil is like saying "people need to stop stealing from shops" instead of putting in proper security measures and alarms.
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  2. #112
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    Raiya Li
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    Dancer Lv 100
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  3. #113
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccan026 View Post
    It would cause inflation if SE just started selling gil without using the job skips/scenario skips (and again folks factor in the fact that they lose out on gil they could have earned without doing this, especially with the story skips... so it does even out some)
    They wouldn't sell gil outright. They'd sell Crysta tokens or tradable items that players would buy for cash and sell on the MB. This means no gil is generated, it merely moves from one player to another.
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  4. #114
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    Edax Royeaux
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    And despite additional retainers being unhealthy for the game they have been here for what, 5 years now? And no doom and gloom, everything operates just fine, people who have them can earn more gil than those who don't, and it's all fine because gil is largely useless.
    Just because it isn't doom and gloom that my mother has had cancer for 7 years now does not mean cancer is healthy or that everything is fine. It's still a problem. If gil was largely useless as you say, there wouldn't be all these bots farming gil so your premise is contradicted by the reality of the situation.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    Meh, if SE sold gil it wouldn't make the game pay to win in the slightest. What is there to even spend large amounts of gil on?

    Houses?
    HQ crafted gear?
    Materia?

    If SE sold gil and I suddenly bought, (let's be hyperbolic) 100 million gil right now, I wouldn't suddenly be able to go and get full BIS savage mode raid gear.
    And what do you need that "full BIS savage mode raid gear" for when you've already beaten the optional difficult content? It's as optional as anything you get with gil and only there for people's enjoyment of the game, so might as well sell them too if you don't think selling gil is pay to win.
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  6. #116
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    Aribeth Lightbringer
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    Behemoth
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    like Reiyu comment this because it use husky and I argee with it
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  7. #117
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    Brian Darkalter
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    I came up with a great idea to solve all the gil problems. We need a Gilfundme page. This way people who don’t have anything to spend gil on can donate to the less fortunate players. This could cut out the bots all together
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  8. #118
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    Dubont Matteus
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dude seriously made a forum account just to try and make the community buy and sell gil. Didn't get the responses he wanted, so he bolted AND his profile doesn't have an active character anymore. Sooooo I guess he quit. That's fine, botters literally do nothing in this game other than flood the market with materials that I need for crafting. Gil has no real value when each quest gives between 3k-10k for just talking to someone. I bought an entire set of HQ lv70 gear, right before SHB released. By just doing the MSQ, I made all of that gil back in an hour. No farming. No selling anything. Just quests.
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

  9. #119
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    Edax Royeaux
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    That's fine, botters literally do nothing in this game other than flood the market with materials that I need for crafting.
    If that good or bad?
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  10. #120
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    And what do you need that "full BIS savage mode raid gear" for when you've already beaten the optional difficult content? It's as optional as anything you get with gil and only there for people's enjoyment of the game, so might as well sell them too if you don't think selling gil is pay to win.
    In Rift you can buy entire raid sets for real money, that's all optional as well. Pay to win, means being able to buy something that makes you better than other players at the same level. Adding gil doesn't really do anything but let you buy some crafted (worse than tomestone/raid/dungeon gear in most cases) and houses (in the rare moments they're available). Pay to win to me, would be if it was like Rift where you could spend money and buy an entire set of raid gear for yourself that other players can only get by clearing the raid or forking over some dosh.

    I'm not saying I'm for selling gil mind you, quite the opposite. Gil is so useless most of the time that there's no reason to buy it as far as I'm concerned. However I adamantly disagree with this notion that buying gil (regardless of the source) somehow trivializes the game and makes it pay to win. The notion is nonsensical and doesn't hold under any real scrutiny.
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