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    SamSmoot's Avatar
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    Fugu Barr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    The main thing it accomplished was allowing Blizzard to tap into the RMT market. They love their money above all else, even their dignity and product quality. It did, however, put a slight dent in RMT sellers because people can buy gold from Blizzard instead without having their accounts compromised or risking a ban.
    Actually, you didn't buy gold from Blizzard, you bought it from other players. The cash you paid to enable the transaction went to cover the seller's subscription when he traded the token for time, and a $5 handling fee to Blizzard.
    The buyer was effectively paying cash for another player's game time, and getting that player's gold in return for it.
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    Actually, you didn't buy gold from Blizzard, you bought it from other players. The cash you paid to enable the transaction went to cover the seller's subscription when he traded the token for time, and a $5 handling fee to Blizzard.
    The buyer was effectively paying cash for another player's game time, and getting that player's gold in return for it.
    ...and the money still goes to Blizzard, since it's the cost of a subscription fee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    ...and the money still goes to Blizzard, since it's the cost of a subscription fee.
    Plus a $5.00 handling fee. (Sub is $15, token is $20) Advantage with this system is that it doesn't cause inflation by creating new gold in-game. It's merely being transferred between players who have time to make it. and those who can afford it but don't have the time to earn it on their own. The ones who "sell" their gold via the tokens can also keep playing, even if they can't afford the subscription cost..
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    Last edited by SamSmoot; 09-16-2019 at 12:26 PM.

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    Oraina Fhey
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    WoW came up with a system where you could buy a token with cash, then sell it on the auction house to another player for gold. The buyer could then turn in the token for game time, effectively paying for the game with in-game currency.

    So, players who want extra gold can buy it from other players with $$ through Blizzard.

    It didn't stop the RMT sellers or the bots.
    It also made the cost of everything skyrocket since even if no one bought your token in 24 hours you got the gold anyhow. This mostly achieved flooding the game with more gold and ruined the economy even more.

    I hope SE never implements anything like this.
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    Say'ri Anderson
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    its not hard to make gil and for most things you dont even need gil if you just farm / craft or gather stuff. so no, SE dont sell gil. their enough p2w games, just play them instead.
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    The only way to stop the bots and rmt shout is to stop buy Gil for real money.

    SE need a big campaign and make clear to everyone that buying gil for real money will cause a permanent ban on the main character.
    Also to make clear that they are not joking, they should tell us how many active players they banned and how active these players have been.
    Like:
    5 players has been banned, the most active had 2 years of in-game playtime.
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    The only way to stop the bots and rmt shout is to stop buy Gil for real money.

    SE need a big campaign and make clear to everyone that buying gil for real money will cause a permanent ban on the main character.
    Also to make clear that they are not joking, they should tell us how many active players they banned and how active these players have been.
    Like:
    5 players has been banned, the most active had 2 years of in-game playtime.
    I do find the sheer amount of transparency involved with the reporting system rather awkward.

    It's rather customary for a MMO to at least tell you if a report has been read and whether or not it was actually acted on. With how poorly XIV handles things it makes me wonder if they're reading the reports at all.
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    The only way the gilseller / botting issue ends, is if YOU the players STOP BUYING IT!

    If they dont make money, they dont bother and move on to the next game.
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    The only way the gilseller / botting issue ends, is if YOU the players STOP BUYING IT!

    If they dont make money, they dont bother and move on to the next game.
    No, this is not a valid statement because it implies some level of control over the playerbase. We cannot control the actions of RandomPlayer123 therefore if this is the solution then the botting issue will never end. We need to get SE to PREVENT the botting situation by making it so players can't do it in the first place, or having a handle on stopping it before players can purchase.

    Blaming the players for buying Gil is like saying "people need to stop stealing from shops" instead of putting in proper security measures and alarms.
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Meh, if SE sold gil it wouldn't make the game pay to win in the slightest. What is there to even spend large amounts of gil on?

    Houses?
    HQ crafted gear?
    Materia?

    If SE sold gil and I suddenly bought, (let's be hyperbolic) 100 million gil right now, I wouldn't suddenly be able to go and get full BIS savage mode raid gear.
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