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  1. #91
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    Edax Royeaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADarklore View Post
    Perhaps they should just increase the amount of gil that one can earn from various tasks.
    That would just cause inflation unless they increased the gil sinks to remove that extra gil being added to the economy. Flooding the economy with currency just devalues it, in 1914 a loaf of bread cost 13 cents in Germany, by 1923 bread cost $100 billion a loaf. Just handing out more gil isn't going to solve the problem.
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    Last edited by Edax; 09-13-2019 at 01:45 AM.

  2. #92
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADarklore View Post
    Perhaps they should just increase the amount of gil that one can earn from various tasks.
    Think about what most money is spent on: Its stuff on the marketboard, mostly the most recent crafted gear, food and potions or rare glamour items like clothes, mounts, pets etc. All of those things have one thing in common: The prices are set by the playerbase and are adjusted to their current worth, aka what people are willing and able to pay for them. The more money people have, the more they're willing and able to spent and the prices go up accordingly. The problem of looking at the marketboard and thinking "Damn, that night pegasus is still 30 million, I cant afford that because I only have 10 million!" wouldnt be solved - it would only turn into "Yeah, I have 100 million now, I can buy that pegasus! ...wait... why does it cost 300 million now?!"

    Your suggestion would be a proper one if the game itself offered massive gil-sinks, but it doesnt - the only thing close to a gil-sink would be housing and thanks to price-reductions most housing isnt even one: apartments, FC-rooms and small houses only leave a tiny dent in most peoples pockets, while mediums might have a chance at that and mansions are to few to have a real impact. Other than that... when does the game asks you to spend money? You can buy beast tribe mounts for 200k each and thats it.
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  3. #93
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Your suggestion would be a proper one if the game itself offered massive gil-sinks, but it doesnt - the only thing close to a gil-sink would be housing and thanks to price-reductions most housing isnt even one: apartments, FC-rooms and small houses only leave a tiny dent in most peoples pockets, while mediums might have a chance at that and mansions are to few to have a real impact. Other than that... when does the game asks you to spend money? You can buy beast tribe mounts for 200k each and thats it.
    Housing doesn't fail as a gil sink because of reduction, it fails because it's unavailable to most of the player base. Can't buy a house if there are no open plots. A gil sink only works if it's something actually available to sink gil into.
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  4. #94
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Housing doesn't fail as a gil sink because of reduction, it fails because it's unavailable to most of the player base. Can't buy a house if there are no open plots. A gil sink only works if it's something actually available to sink gil into.
    Yep, exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  5. #95
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    WoW came up with a system where you could buy a token with cash, then sell it on the auction house to another player for gold. The buyer could then turn in the token for game time, effectively paying for the game with in-game currency.

    So, players who want extra gold can buy it from other players with $$ through Blizzard.

    It didn't stop the RMT sellers or the bots.
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    WoW came up with a system where you could buy a token with cash, then sell it on the auction house to another player for gold. The buyer could then turn in the token for game time, effectively paying for the game with in-game currency.

    So, players who want extra gold can buy it from other players with $$ through Blizzard.

    It didn't stop the RMT sellers or the bots.
    The main thing it accomplished was allowing Blizzard to tap into the RMT market. They love their money above all else, even their dignity and product quality. It did, however, put a slight dent in RMT sellers because people can buy gold from Blizzard instead without having their accounts compromised or risking a ban.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  7. #97
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    Luna Nattvind
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADarklore View Post
    Perhaps they should just increase the amount of gil that one can earn from various tasks.
    All this accomplishes is diminishing the value of already existing Gil in the system and will not solve anything. All things that are worthwhile to buy with Gil are sold by players, so prices will adjust accordingly to how easy Gil is to earn.
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    Learn, explore, and think for yourself. Make your choices, take actions, and let yourself be free.

  8. #98
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    Oraina Fhey
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    WoW came up with a system where you could buy a token with cash, then sell it on the auction house to another player for gold. The buyer could then turn in the token for game time, effectively paying for the game with in-game currency.

    So, players who want extra gold can buy it from other players with $$ through Blizzard.

    It didn't stop the RMT sellers or the bots.
    It also made the cost of everything skyrocket since even if no one bought your token in 24 hours you got the gold anyhow. This mostly achieved flooding the game with more gold and ruined the economy even more.

    I hope SE never implements anything like this.
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  9. #99
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    Say'ri Anderson
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    its not hard to make gil and for most things you dont even need gil if you just farm / craft or gather stuff. so no, SE dont sell gil. their enough p2w games, just play them instead.
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  10. #100
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    Chryden Speakel
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    The only way to stop the bots and rmt shout is to stop buy Gil for real money.

    SE need a big campaign and make clear to everyone that buying gil for real money will cause a permanent ban on the main character.
    Also to make clear that they are not joking, they should tell us how many active players they banned and how active these players have been.
    Like:
    5 players has been banned, the most active had 2 years of in-game playtime.
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