SE Please Sell Gil

[Wiccan026]

Meh, if SE sold gil it wouldn't make the game pay to win in the slightest. What is there to even spend large amounts of gil on?

Houses?
HQ crafted gear?
Materia?

If SE sold gil and I suddenly bought, (let's be hyperbolic) 100 million gil right now, I wouldn't suddenly be able to go and get full BIS savage mode raid gear.

It would cause inflation if SE just started selling gil without using the job skips/scenario skips (and again folks factor in the fact that they lose out on gil they could have earned without doing this, especially with the story skips... so it does even out some)

[Liam_Harper]

It would cause inflation if SE just started selling gil without using the job skips/scenario skips (and again folks factor in the fact that they lose out on gil they could have earned without doing this, especially with the story skips... so it does even out some)

They wouldn't sell gil outright. They'd sell Crysta tokens or tradable items that players would buy for cash and sell on the MB. This means no gil is generated, it merely moves from one player to another.

[linay]

Meh, if SE sold gil it wouldn't make the game pay to win in the slightest. What is there to even spend large amounts of gil on?

Houses?
HQ crafted gear?
Materia?

If SE sold gil and I suddenly bought, (let's be hyperbolic) 100 million gil right now, I wouldn't suddenly be able to go and get full BIS savage mode raid gear.

And what do you need that "full BIS savage mode raid gear" for when you've already beaten the optional difficult content? It's as optional as anything you get with gil and only there for people's enjoyment of the game, so might as well sell them too if you don't think selling gil is pay to win.

[Khalithar]

And what do you need that "full BIS savage mode raid gear" for when you've already beaten the optional difficult content? It's as optional as anything you get with gil and only there for people's enjoyment of the game, so might as well sell them too if you don't think selling gil is pay to win.

In Rift you can buy entire raid sets for real money, that's all optional as well. Pay to win, means being able to buy something that makes you better than other players at the same level. Adding gil doesn't really do anything but let you buy some crafted (worse than tomestone/raid/dungeon gear in most cases) and houses (in the rare moments they're available). Pay to win to me, would be if it was like Rift where you could spend money and buy an entire set of raid gear for yourself that other players can only get by clearing the raid or forking over some dosh.

I'm not saying I'm for selling gil mind you, quite the opposite. Gil is so useless most of the time that there's no reason to buy it as far as I'm concerned. However I adamantly disagree with this notion that buying gil (regardless of the source) somehow trivializes the game and makes it pay to win. The notion is nonsensical and doesn't hold under any real scrutiny.

[linay]

In Rift you can buy entire raid sets for real money, that's all optional as well. Pay to win, means being able to buy something that makes you better than other players at the same level. Adding gil doesn't really do anything but let you buy some crafted (worse than tomestone/raid/dungeon gear in most cases) and houses (in the rare moments they're available). Pay to win to me, would be if it was like Rift where you could spend money and buy an entire set of raid gear for yourself that other players can only get by clearing the raid or forking over some dosh.

I'm not saying I'm for selling gil mind you, quite the opposite. Gil is so useless most of the time that there's no reason to buy it as far as I'm concerned. However I adamantly disagree with this notion that buying gil (regardless of the source) somehow trivializes the game and makes it pay to win. The notion is nonsensical and doesn't hold under any real scrutiny.

Except many people don't play to do raid, so selling raid gear wouldn't mean anything to them unless they just want the glamour, and even having good gear wouldn't guarantee a clear. A lot of people do play to buy and decorate house, collect glamour, mounts, minions, etc., and many of these items can be bought via gil, which means selling gil would trivialize the game for them. No need to do higher (lower?) floor PoTD if you have the gil to buy a Night Pegasus mount, etc.

[Crasherino]

Where are people getting the idea of pw2 from? all gear in this game is easily obtainable from simply playing the game, doing your tome grind, ext primals savage stuff, I'm not even sure if you can buy that stuff, and even if you can, why would you do that in a game like this? if you buy your gear you're literally skipping "end game" to the point where you've literally just ended your game, there's nothing left to work for at end game, PvP? pretty sure your gear doesn't matter, open world pvp? doesn't even exist, so what do you win exactly? the fashion parade? lol

Seriously though, I think the idea of "pay to WIN" has had it's meaning nuked, at best this game would be "pay to progress faster" and it wouldn't even be in a way that would hinder literally anybodys gameplay at all, the only thing advancing gear does is open up a few more instances at end game, but even then, you hit level cap in SB and suddenly you can do all the current end-game dungeons anyway from getting the gear obtainable from completing your role quest, the only thing missing is ext primals and savage, something that not everyone does anyway and wouldn't somehow prevent people from doing it, especially when getting access to it is so incredibly easy.

[Bright-Flower]

You can already 'buy gil' legally. Every story skip/job boost potion comes with 500k. I have no idea where this stacks up against gil seller prices, but if someone wanted to they could just buy a bunch of these items, throw out the level up books and keep the gil from them as much as they wanted.

As for pay to win I don't really consider this pay to win, though I can see the arguement.

What is 'winning' in this game? Buying job boosts will get you to level 70 sure and a bit of gil. But even if that gil gets you crafted gear, so what?

In pvp, your gear doesn't even matter, so buying these boosts isn't helping you win in pvp.

In raids, buying crafted gear can be a help, but this gear isn't so expensive or valuable that I think this would count as pay to 'win' anyway especially with there being other sources of endgame gear, with savage gear being better.

[Raiya]

[Savagelf]

like Reiyu comment this because it use husky and I argee with it

[Warghoul570]

I came up with a great idea to solve all the gil problems. We need a Gilfundme page. This way people who don’t have anything to spend gil on can donate to the less fortunate players. This could cut out the bots all together