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  1. #81
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    Annah Gynnterais
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by grey1234 View Post
    SE,
    I'm quitting, .
    o/

    In all seriousness, No. No. and No. It's not going to be paid to win. Also, I have been playing FFXIV since 1.0. In all my years of playing I only had one issue with bots killing diremites about 6 years ago.

    That's it.
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  2. #82
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    Edax Royeaux
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CookiesNCreams View Post
    LOL what happened to OPs character?
    Well he did say he was gonna quit.
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  3. #83
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Marauder Lv 80
    "Game will be P2W"

    They already sell gil, so far no one has had complaints about the $25 - 500k exchange. You can also buy 8 additional retainers generating 1m every couple of days.

    I don't see how a WoW token like would break the game when the cash shop already generates so much gil in exchange for money.

    I feel like using i450 as an argument for pay to win when our current max ilvl is i470 is a big stretch.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    They already sell gil
    Ok, then that's the end of the thread, I guess. People who want to buy gil can already do so.
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  5. #85
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    Edax Royeaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    "Game will be P2W"

    They already sell gil, so far no one has had complaints about the $25 - 500k exchange.
    In the context of fighting bots, the bots provide an exchange rate that 50 times better then the mogstation. Of course the bots are going to win that battle.
    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    You can also buy 8 additional retainers generating 1m every couple of days.
    Which isn't healthy for the game.
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  6. #86
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    Barraind Faylestar
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    I remember when they introduced such tokens to Everquest
    Krono sales and the healthy trading market on eq's TLP servers are basically keeping EQ alive right now.

    Daybreak makes a LOT of money off them, and it's a big force in regulating the market.
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  7. #87
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    Tiny Tina
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    Omega
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    Krono sales and the healthy trading market on eq's TLP servers are basically keeping EQ alive right now.

    Daybreak makes a LOT of money off them, and it's a big force in regulating the market.
    I don't know which mechanisms and precaution are in place today, last time I played was 7 years ago or so. All I remember is BIM going for 15k pp and the whole game being overrun by mage bot armies ^^ That wasn't healthy at all.
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  8. #88
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    In the context of fighting bots, the bots provide an exchange rate that 50 times better then the mogstation. Of course the bots are going to win that battle.
    This is the very tactic the WoW RMTers used even after the token was implemented.

    They'd simply sell gold at prices even lower then what Blizzard indirectly offered via the token so they could never get rid of them entirely.

    RMT really is a problem that can only be mitigated at best as they almost always find ways to do it at little to no cost to themselves, meaning there's only profit to be made.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 09-12-2019 at 05:29 PM.

  9. #89
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    Paladin Lv 100
    It sounds like you really want to kill this game. Very bad idea.
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  10. #90
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    Caldien Redglaive
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Perhaps they should just increase the amount of gil that one can earn from various tasks.
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    Last edited by ADarklore; 09-13-2019 at 01:11 AM.

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