SE Please Sell Gil

[Liam_Harper]

EDIT:
Speaking about this as someone who has never touched WoW, doesn't care for WoW, doesn't care to devote any real effort to find information regarding anything to WoW nor how hard it is to even attain gold in WoW. It doesn't change how concerning it is for a single 'token' cost as high as 590k gold in the last year of that game using this site. If it was anything like an older game I played with a similar exchange as WoW, 200k-500k is definitely much harder to obtain and promotes throwing real world cash to progress that the concerns I brought up address.

The last thing I'd ever want to see in FFXIV is food or pots going for 100k per 1.

It was fine enough in WoW. Their token prices only spiked whenever they handed out gold like candy, or a really desirable offer came up in the cash shop so everyone wanted battlenet balance. Overall it was easy enough to earn gold as long as you didn't treat it like a job to fund your sub. I made maybe 500$ or so in battlenet goods from tokens in my time in WoW.

Pots and mats never really inflated over there, especially compared to here. I could burn pots freely in casual content. Over here they're expensive enough to be Savage exclusive. Competition in WoW was rather high because gold had a real life value, so more people were selling to earn it and fueling item supply.

[Bacent]

It's not actually hard to make gil in this game. Just so many people are lazy/want the easy way out, even if it means them risking their accounts for being dumb enough to buy RMT gil.

[Wiccan026]

Adding more money will create inflation, especially if they sell gil on the mog station.

Something right now costs 2 mil on the marketboard would probably at least double (if not more) if people had the ability to purchase gil on the mogstation.

Also, before anyone goes ahead with the argument that if you buy a story skip, level boost, SE gives you money, it roughly equates to what you would probably get leveling that job, progressing through story "legitimately" (although I've done the math you actually lose out on a bit of money). That's not creating money that wouldn't exist if someone followed the steps.

[LittleArrow]

If I can make a suggestion, go to a different server. I know it sucks, and for those putting their money into an investment it does definitely feel unfair. However, this game has much more to offer than whatever level you got to. You paid for the game, you shouldn't allow bots to deter you from enjoying it. I have seen a few bots here and there on my own server, I can't speak for quest mobs or what not, but I've never seen the amount of bots that people report here.

I've always played on more populated servers, so maybe that's been a nice deterrent for bots since it can be hard to make characters depending on when the window opens up for character creation.

I can't say your suggestion would help the situation. There will always be bots. The more popular the game, most likely, the more bots you're going to see. Although I disagree with SE's priority with their spending, please also keep in mind this game is running with a fraction of the devs that other MMO's are running at. Also, before someone brings in the "But <insert lower populated MMO title here> has less devs and they can deal with this," yes, but they also probably don't have as large as a problem as the more populated games, thus, less of an issue.

Again, please don't think quitting the game in this fashion is the right idea. Try different alternatives before throwing in the towel. Then, if you think you've gotten all your money's worth, do what you gotta do.

Also, I don't think as any MMO community the answer to an I quit thread is always "See ya later!" "it's just not your game" yada yada... it may be 1 poster with a hundred more silent posters behind them. The fact that someone comes on here and posts a problem that has caused them so much grief they honestly feel they should quit relating to game mechanics etc should be noted and addressed. This problem has come up numerous times and I agree SE should have an easier reporting system and GMs should deal with these accounts more swiftly instead of waiting for 1 massive ban hammer months later to make a nice headline.

[EDIT] Quick sidenote, the devs hands are also tied in many ways when it comes to certain capabilities of this game. 1.0 devs took a ton of shortcuts in programming and due to this it has caused the new devs an incredible amount of headache to resolve issues. I'm not saying easier reporting methods is one of those, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was. Simple fixes in the past has been addressed by Yoshi as basically impossible due to having to rewrite the base code of the game, thus breaking it.

I don't often defend SE, frankly... I feel they've been cutting corners themselves lately due to the massive popularity of the game; still, there is credit where credit is due and to not keep in mind what Yoshi is working with and make big overarching suggestions without consideration has got to be very frustrating to read from the devs' side.

[Zfz]

I think it's such a bad idea that I'd even rather have the game completely remove the ability to transfer items and gil between characters (and completely remove any form of inter-player economy) than to see gil sold officially.

[RaquelleAvarosa]

You are seriously willing to spend $12,000 a year on FF14 to play without bots?

Yes. Absolutely.

I smell BS.

[Ilyrian]

I hate bots as much as the next person but buying gil will just replace one market crashing agent with another.

[JowyAtreides]

Making ingame currency officially purchasable for real money would deter me from this game. I am glad that Square Enix doesn't exploit this type of cash grab.

For those who want to be able to sell mogstation items for gil, isn't this already sort of possible via gifting to friends? (not sure if it's allowable to be honest but so long as the gil is obtained legally, does it matter what we do with it?)

Otherwise I can honestly say that I don't think bots have ever directly impacted my ability to play this game to the extent that has been claimed in the original post.

[Lunavi]

Can you provide evidence of this statement?

The first few things I find are at ends of your statement:
Concern 1
Concern 2
Concern 3

If it truly helped the economy, when I search for something along the lines of this topic, I should at least see some positive or neutral stances (knowing full well there will always be doomsayers and those expressing concerns). Also, it just sounds like WoW's economy is a bit F.U.B.A.R. as is and this just compounded it.

EDIT:
Speaking about this as someone who has never touched WoW, doesn't care for WoW, doesn't care to devote any real effort to find information regarding anything to WoW nor how hard it is to even attain gold in WoW. It doesn't change how concerning it is for a single 'token' cost as high as 590k gold in the last year of that game using this site. If it was anything like an older game I played with a similar exchange as WoW, 200k-500k is definitely much harder to obtain and promotes throwing real world cash to progress that the concerns I brought up address.

The last thing I'd ever want to see in FFXIV is food or pots going for 100k per 1.

One very concrete thing it did was to decrease ”professional” gold botting as most people rather be safe than sorry if they buy gil and botters not really caring about gametime, and to add an item into the game that can be traded on AH that has value.

The second is not a concern in ffxiv as our crafters can make and sell items of actual value, But anything that hits bots is highly welcomed here.

The problem with the WoW economy is that crafters are in a pretty miserable spot in WoW, at least from what I can tell of a friend of mine who still plays it and is a top-end crafter/gatherer.

[hynaku]

One mmo I played they banned all Ip addresses from china and India. It took care of 99% of the bot problems they where having. After they did it was very rare to see more than one bot on at a time.