Worst housing system I have ever seen

[Shougun]

These threads saying they're quitting the game or these threads advocating the destruction of the current housing system are very much interpreted by me as anti-housing as they are very much not pro-housing.

As I said, I'm a pro-housing advocate. I want to talk about housing. I don't see people spamming near identical threads in the other sub-forums.

Fair enough that you feel they're anti-housing, just so long hopefully you also understand what I was trying to explain ^_^.

Just in case I made a silly example:

A: I love chocolate, I want you to make me a milk-chocolate cake.
B: Okay, I hear you- I've made you a german chocolate cake!
A: I didn't want nuts. I'm allergic to them.
B: I made you chocolate cake, why aren't you happy?
A: I like chocolate, I can't have chocolate cake with nuts- please make me another one.
B: Nah I made you exactly what you wanted.
A: I didn't want this.
B: Literally exactly what you wanted, it's a chocolate cake now get your epipen and be quiet.
A: MAKE ME ANOTHER CAKE
B: YOU WANTED THIS ONE I MADE IT, YOU HATE CHOCOLATE? YOU'RE AGAINST CHOCOLATE AREN'T YOU!?!?!
A: REEEEEEEEEEE
[insert some Gordon Ramsey memes here]

Lol. Clearly B didn't quite deliver what A wanted, just as SE has not delivered housing in the form that I'd say the great majority of players that mention "instanced housing" feel (can't speak for everyone but from what I've read it's true, even if some of the posts are more aggressive than I'd prefer). That's not to say there is no C player who think's German chocolate cake is the best cake, there are obviously lol.. just that for A they do actually love and greatly desire cake (they love housing, they are pro-housing in the concept of housing in an mmorpg) they do not however love german chocolate cake (SE's housing). They're clearly pro chocolate, they're just not pro of the variant made.

Not that I think you have to view it this way, but I doubt if you told people who are making these threads that they hate (or at least are anti) housing, that they hate(/anti) chocolate, that they'd ever agree with you because they don't/are not lol. But I can understand what you're trying to say, so at least I think I see what you're trying to express to me.

Personally I think we should encourage an environment that's open to criticism but also comradery and growth. I understand everyone see's that differently.. so even if everyone agreed with me we'd not agree on end results.. but I do wish we could voice our concerns to SE politely (and I do wish SE takes polite feedback sincerely). Which isn't to say SE must act on every comment or feedback but you'd hope the means of communication are not "the biggest REEE gets the most grease" , because it would encourage bit of a toxic relationship.

I don't want to cause too much side discussion but hopefully we're at an understanding even if it's not a complete agreement lol. Feel free to quote/respond to me of course~! Just warning I'll probably not respond because I don't want to derail the thread's purpose, not to see my response as a lack of interest .

[Jojoya]

Fair enough that you feel they're anti-housing, just so long hopefully you also understand what I was trying to explain ^_^.

Just in case I made a silly example:

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Player A acting that way is the worst possible approach to trying to get Player B (or SE) to reconsider anything. They're coming off as an entitled, spoiled brat having a temper tantrum. They're going to end up getting ignored.

It no longer matters what they're actually asking for. People stop caring about what Player A wants. They've tuned that person out.

If you're trying to use Player B to represent SE's response to players, it's a bad example. Instead of the "Nah I made you exactly what you wanted", the response should have been "I used up my available ingredients making the cake for you. I don't know when I'll have more to try to make another cake for you because I also have to be making food for these other 700,000 people who don't particularly about cake."

No one is trying to discourage criticism but it needs to be calm, constructive discussion promoting change to benefit the community and not the "I'M GONNA QUIT BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GIVE ME WHAT I WANT" temper tantrums.