Worst housing system I have ever seen

[TheForce]

/facepalm
There is already an instanced housing called apartment....

Thank you. Apartments are dirt cheap and are literally everywhere on my server, on top of that, they don't hold you hostage (unlike houses), and will always be there for you no matter how long you're away from the game. I don't think the players who keep complaining about housing are ACTUALLY upset about not having their own space, they're just upset a few other players have something they don't (and something that isn't even all that I might add, as a home owner myself, I honestly just use my house as a gil sink and the occasional gardening).

[IkaraGreydancer]

Thank you. Apartments are dirt cheap and are literally everywhere on my server, on top of that, they don't hold you hostage (unlike houses), and will always be there for you no matter how long you're away from the game. I don't think the players who keep complaining about housing are ACTUALLY upset about not having their own space, they're just upset a few other players have something they don't (and something that isn't even all that I might add, as a home owner myself, I honestly just use my house as a gil sink and the occasional gardening).

Or some people want the outdoor space/gardening and more than 1 floor to decorate. But nice generalization

[TheForce]

Housing is a topic that needs in general a fix.
It cant be that you have housing in this game with servers full of thousands over thousands of players, and then this game actually makes it possible only for like a few hundred of them to actually own a house (among which are many FC Headquarts and actually no personal houses), while everyone else is forced to have maximum only an appartment. Thats pathetic.

Housing has to be possible for everyone. I don't need to have for this extra full housing villages. Would be enough if my house is just a personal instance to which I could invite others, it doesnt need to stand for me extra in an instanced village full of houses from others.

Make Housing if that needs to be a thing that costs like 1 Dollar/Euro rent a half year, thats 2 Dollar/Euro a year, if that use only 1 million active players theb does earn housibg 2 million cash that should be more than enough money alone already to upgrade servers with more than enough bandwith to ensure that everyone can have own houses who actually want to have one, because only due to that feature being there, doen't mean that all players want also to use it.
Not every player must be into housing and likes it, ther are also alot of player which don't care themself about housing in FF14 at all.

But everyone who cares about it, should also be able to use that feature, without being forced to play any plot lottery for years!!! Thats just ridiculous.

Sorry, but the moment you suggested players should actually pay rent for a house in FFXIV, I couldn't take you seriously. Some of you claim that the current system is such a disaster, but then you propose ideas that are literally 100x worse. What are you trying to accomplish here.

[Jojoya]

Sorry, but the moment you suggested players should actually pay rent for a house in FFXIV, I couldn't take you seriously. Some of you claim that the current system is such a disaster, but then you propose ideas that are literally 100x worse. What are you trying to accomplish here.

To be honest, I'd support a rent/property tax type system over boosting purchase prices like some players want. It's more akin to getting a mortgage - make a down payment then pay the rest over time instead of needing a huge amount of gil up front. It also ends up a more effective gil sink because it's taking more gil out of the economy over time than the single upfront purchase fee does.

It's not a disastrous idea. The disaster would only happen if poorly implemented. Still, I don't think it's something SE is going to consider let alone do at this point unless they can't come up with different housing solutions and need to find a way to lower demand for what is already in the game.

[JowyAtreides]

To be honest, I'd support a rent/property tax type system over boosting purchase prices like some players want. It's more akin to getting a mortgage - make a down payment then pay the rest over time instead of needing a huge amount of gil up front. It also ends up a more effective gil sink because it's taking more gil out of the economy over time than the single upfront purchase fee does.

It's not a disastrous idea. The disaster would only happen if poorly implemented. Still, I don't think it's something SE is going to consider let alone do at this point unless they can't come up with different housing solutions and need to find a way to lower demand for what is already in the game.

In order to stop their houses from being demolished, homeowners have to pay £72.99 (€116.91) a year. If careful, they can get away with only paying for 9 months if they choose to take breaks or stop playing the game but want to keep their house. (they would also need to log in and touch base)

They do not have the luxury of only paying for 4 months a year in order to keep up with story.

I still maintain the best MMO game I've played for housing was White Knight Chronicles.

[Alyanna_Elingval]

To be honest, I'd support a rent/property tax type system over boosting purchase prices like some players want. It's more akin to getting a mortgage - make a down payment then pay the rest over time instead of needing a huge amount of gil up front. It also ends up a more effective gil sink because it's taking more gil out of the economy over time than the single upfront purchase fee does.

It's not a disastrous idea. The disaster would only happen if poorly implemented. Still, I don't think it's something SE is going to consider let alone do at this point unless they can't come up with different housing solutions and need to find a way to lower demand for what is already in the game.

That's a terrible idea to me, just make the purchase price higher. But once someone buys a house they should own it unless they reach the demo timer. If someone grinds out gathering or crafting, or whatever they need to do to raise the gil, they shouldn't be able to turn around and lose their house because they can't put a lot of hours into the game for a time or want to play aspects of it that may not provide them much gil.

I spent almost every gil I had on my first house, and then I went and finished the Realm Reborn storyline, and all of the quests to get the HW. I barely had any furniture. Should I have lost my house because I wanted to take a break from grinding out gil and do something else in the game?

[Jojoya]

they shouldn't be able to turn around and lose their house because they can't put a lot of hours into the game for a time or want to play aspects of it that may not provide them much gil.

When it's a limited resource, someone who only intermittently plays the game shouldn't have priority to own a house over someone who is actively playing and would make much more frequent use of it.

Absolutely they should be losing their house under the limited quantity system if they can't be bothered to log in for a few hours each month.

But that takes things back to why an improved instance housing system would be better. No one would have to lose their house when it's stops being a limited resource so someone who's not playing doesn't block someone who is playing from owning one.

Also, why did you bother buying a house when you were so strapped for gil you couldn't even afford to furnish it? That's dumb consumerism, spending what was a fortune to you on a luxury item you don't need and couldn't afford to maintain. You would have been better off learning how to earn and save gil.

If the system required you to pay a monthly fee to continue to own the house, would have you bothered buying it in the first place?

[Alyanna_Elingval]

When it's a limited resource, someone who only intermittently plays the game shouldn't have priority to own a house over someone who is actively playing and would make much more frequent use of it.

Absolutely they should be losing their house under the limited quantity system if they can't be bothered to log in for a few hours each month.

But that takes things back to why an improved instance housing system would be better. No one would have to lose their house when it's stops being a limited resource so someone who's not playing doesn't block someone who is playing from owning one.

Also, why did you bother buying a house when you were so strapped for gil you couldn't even afford to furnish it? That's dumb consumerism, spending what was a fortune to you on a luxury item you don't need and couldn't afford to maintain. You would have been better off learning how to earn and save gil.

If the system required you to pay a monthly fee to continue to own the house, would have you bothered buying it in the first place?

I wasn't unable to maintain the house, it was a choice to do something else. When I did the home is where the heart is quest, I said I'm getting a house and put everything on hold to accomplish that goal. My first jobs to level 50 were crafting and gathering. When I got my house I took a break from all that gil grinding and got back to the story. The only crafting and gathering I did was gear.

If I wanted to take a break from this much gathering and crafting everyday. COnstantly watching the MB, I was well within my rights.



After I unlocked HW I went back and finished decorating my house. But that's how the game goes, in ebbs and flows, whether it be your playtime, or what you're focusing on in game. People shouldn't be forced to have to continually keep making gil once they've purchased their house if they want to do other things with their time in-game. Or if life happens and they can't put a lot of hours into the game they should be penalized dealing with things so that they have no house when they do have more time to play. It's not giving players priority it's letting them keep what they earned when they were putting in the time. Just because someone new comes along that can play a lot, doesn't mean that veterans who put a lot of time in prior should be walked over because they may not be able to do so now. The whole just because I can play right now and you can't I should get priority is nonsense.

Also, I need no help in making and saving gil. I made a plan from the start to level crafters and gatherers first, and I've gone from that small house, to a medium to a large, as well as geared most classes in the game hardly investing any gil from day one.

[Vulcann]

there is no need to have housing cost real money, a game that came out in 2004 was able to give EVERYONE houses with no cost of real money. that game was everquest 2.

[TheForce]

Or some people want the outdoor space/gardening and more than 1 floor to decorate. But nice generalization

I know you won't like my answer, but I gotta keep it real: that stuff is all extra. Just because people want something, doesn't mean they should be guaranteed to have it. But let's say that they actually granted your wish and expanded upon Apartments, you do realize they would also have to add some other cool things to houses right? Since they're intended to be the superior housing options when compared to apartments.

Houses and apartments should not have equal features and amenities, there has to be some incentive to fork over those millions for your own estate. Not trying to be a jerk here, just sharing my opinion, but I honestly believe that most (key word: most) players who resent and complain about the housing in this game are upset simply because a few players have something they don't. Because let's be honest here, housing is definitely not needed to make your way through this game, especially if you have an apartment. It just really seems like the root of this issue is jealousy/envy...which I honestly don't understand because Housing is truly not even all that. It's just a gil-sink.