SE Please Sell Gil

[Makeda]

The problem with gw2 was they also modified drop rates to encourage gem buying to get mats for things because they had such an absurdly low drop rate

Any idea can end up abused if done wrong...

The benefit of doing it last os seeing how competitors managed to turn success into failure and avoiding that misstep.

[Lunavi]

I agree if you implement it like WoW-tokens so they do not actually generate any gil. I would love to trade Gil for playtime/retainer slots.

[JunseiKei]

I would rather them do the final fantasy 8 way.

make you do tasks and get a pay check after so many tasks are done.

like example defeat said bosses.
collect items
beat dungeons

after so many you get paid.

ARR was kind of like that. Dungeons didn't drop gil. Gil came from weekly achievements, leves and marketboard/selling items. It was incredibly hard to gain gil and made crafters so much more desireable as the dark matter was slightly cheaper than using an NPC to repair gear. You were considered very rich if you had 200k gil (non-legacy servers).

I can't say that I'd want to return to that ... due to the stress of worrying about your gear constantly.

[E4EO]

This is definitely a bait thread

[Naoki34]

The game already is "P2W." You can buy fully leveled characters and quest completions. It doesn't get any more P2W than that. I'm not against it really, I'd never do it, but we're already there. And IMHO, yes I'd rather see "P2W" Gil sales on the mogstation than have this game ruined by bots.

Of course, I'd rather see SE actually do something about bots and not sell Gil! But that is never going to happen, so I'm trying to mitigate here.

FFXIV is P2Skin not P2W. And P2Fast with the potion jump 70.
the term P2W means that pay give a real advantage with the stuff and ingame power, out of that is not the case.

And worst idea ever, give the game the opportunity to buy gils, it will kill even more ingame economy, I guess you say that too because you do not craft.
This way gives so much money if you know how to do it.

[Thamorian]

Buying gil from mog station definitely a no go. I also wouldn't support token system where players can buy tokens from Mog Station to sell to other players for gil as from what I remember, in games that do that cause an inflation in prices of various higher level or rarer items. Glamour is end game as we all say and an increase in prices for rarer glamour because of people buying tokens from Mog Station as a gil income method would not be favourable imo.

[Lunavi]

FFXIV is P2Skin not P2W. And P2Fast with the potion jump 70.
the term P2W means that pay give a real advantage with the stuff and ingame power, out of that is not the case.

And worst idea ever, give the game the opportunity to buy gils, it will kill even more ingame economy, I guess you say that too because you do not craft.
This way gives so much money if you know how to do it.

When WoW tokens were implemented in WoW it actually helped its economy, so if you go that route I do not see any harm done as rather than devaluing Gil, there is an extra value to Gil to people who have a lot of it.

[Gaethan_Tessula]

Runescape did this for both 3 and OS. It cut the bot population, but did not eliminate it (esp in OS). 3 is now a microtransactions hellhole kept alive by whales and the tattered remnants of Jagex's pride, though imo that began with Squeal Wheel and not Bonds.

Bots were also a LOT more ruinous to RS's economy and gameplay.

Given the risks and differences in circumstances, I think this would be inappropriate in FF14.

[Lunavi]

Runescape did this for both 3 and OS. It cut the bot population, but did not eliminate it (esp in OS). 3 is now a microtransactions hellhole kept alive by whales and the tattered remnants of Jagex's pride, though imo that began with Squeal Wheel and not Bonds.

Bots were also a LOT more ruinous to RS's economy and gameplay.

Given the risks and differences in circumstances, I think this would be inappropriate in FF14.

Squeal wheel is indeed a larger problem than bonds as bonds does not generate anything, it just takes money from one player to another player rather than artificially increase it.

[SenorPatty]

Um, just want to point out that even if SE sold gil, bots would still run rampant because rmt businesses provide other services than gil, notably power leveling and account sales, which essentially makes up the Big Three of any rmt services. Then they also provide miscellaneous things depending on what else the game can provide. In FF14's case it's actually selling crafted gear and ingame outfits for real money.


So,while I understand the desperation behind OP's suggestion, bots would still run rampant even if it were implemented.