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  1. #1
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    SE Please Sell Gil

    SE,

    The bot situation is out of control. When creating a new character, I cannot even do the MSQ quests because bots will steal kills from inaccessible terrain or the air. I seriously wait in line for a bot train to finish. People cannot even queue for Amdapoor Keep anymore. And for those playing a thaumaturge? Good luck even doing your job quests.

    I paid good money for this game and am moving on, because of bots. It doesn't matter how well done Shadowbringers is. Nor how polished the game is. If you allow this insane level of botting, it trashes the game. I truly do not understand why...
    1. There is no client side cheat detection.
    2. Reporting bots seems to be intentionally difficult.
    3. Reporting gibberish bots does nothing.
    4. Reporting non-gibberish player bots, typically with crowns and all does nothing.
    5. There is obviously no real effort at containing the problem, and yes, things can be done.

    At this point, all I can think of is that it is too financially beneficially for SE to take action. The bots make them money, so they look the other way. Who knows, I don't, and will never.

    But please SE, if it really is about profit over actually caring for your game, then sell freaking Gil. Sell it on the MogStation, make it legit. Those concerned about P2W, well we can buy level boosts and quest completions.

    I'm quitting, as I know nothing will be done. But for the rest of your player base, especially new players, at least consider it. Sell Gil, beat the bots at their own game. Will it get rid of all of them? Nope. But it'll get rid of enough that you can focus on what is remaining.
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    Last edited by grey1234; 09-11-2019 at 02:29 AM.

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    TwiibieTwuu's Avatar
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    Game essentially will become pay to win. People will use bots to sell cheaper Gil to under cut squares prices. People will exchange their Gil for irl money. So to get that shiney new top you better be ready to fork over a couple of ££ to a player.
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    Edax Royeaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by grey1234 View Post
    SE,

    The bot situation is out of control. When creating a new character, I cannot even do the MSQ quests because bots will steal kills from inaccessible terrain or the air. I seriously wait in line for a bot train to finish.

    I paid good money for this game and am leaving it. Because of bots. I truly do not understand why:
    1. There is no client side cheat detection.
    2. Reporting bots seems to be intentionally difficult.
    3. Non-gibberish player bots, typically with crowns and all, reporting them does nothing.
    4. There is obviously no real effort at containing the problem. Yes, things can be done. No, what is being done now is a joke.

    At this point, all I can think of is that it is too financially beneficially for SE to take action. The bots make them money, so they look the other way. Who knows, I don't, and will never.

    But please SE, if it really is about profit over actually caring for your game, then sell freaking Gil. Sell it on the MogStation, make it legit. Those concerned about P2W, well we can buy level boosts and quest completions.

    I'm quitting, as I know nothing will be done. But for the rest of your player base, especially new players, at least consider it. Sell Gil, beat the bots at their own game. Will it get rid of all of them? Nope. But it'll get rid of enough that you can focus on what is remaining.
    Making the game P2W to fight bots is a very poor idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Making the game P2W to fight bots is a very poor idea.
    The game already is "P2W." You can buy fully leveled characters and quest completions. It doesn't get any more P2W than that. I'm not against it really, I'd never do it, but we're already there. And IMHO, yes I'd rather see "P2W" Gil sales on the mogstation than have this game ruined by bots.

    Of course, I'd rather see SE actually do something about bots and not sell Gil! But that is never going to happen, so I'm trying to mitigate here.
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    Last edited by grey1234; 09-11-2019 at 02:36 AM.

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    Level boost,Story skips or this Gil boost don't fall under p2w

    Not like any of this clears stuff for you

    Official rmt would kill the MB bots don't
    Lesser of two evils
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    Khirrika Moshroca
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    Quote Originally Posted by grey1234 View Post
    The game is already "P2W." You can buy fully leveled characters and quest completions. It doesn't get any more P2W than that. I'm not against it really, I'd never do it, but we're already there. And IMHO, yes I'd rather see "P2W" Gil sales on the mogstation than have this game ruined by bots. I'd pay 1000/month to play this game with fewer bots, hands down.
    $1000 a month? Troll thread confirmed
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by grey1234 View Post
    The game is already "P2W." You can buy fully leveled characters and quest completions. It doesn't get any more P2W than that. I'm not against it really, I'd never do it, but we're already there. And IMHO, yes I'd rather see "P2W" Gil sales on the mogstation than have this game ruined by bots. I'd pay 1000/month to play this game with fewer bots, hands down.
    It most definitely can get far more P2W than being able to boost characters to level 70 (not max) or to complete older MSQ. Is this your first MMO by chance? Bots are just a part of online games. Some handle them better than others, but they are always a thing. Simply allowing players to buy gil is not the best solution.
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    lol @ people thinking being able to buy gil is P2W. What are you even buying with your gil that's making you "win"? I'm sitting on over 200Mil because I have nothing to spend it on.

    I wouldn't mind seeing an item on the Mogstation that you could sell in-game, similar to the WoW tokens. I'd never spend real money on stuff off the mog station, but I'd gladly spend in-game money for tokens that someone else bought to get some of the Mogstation crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SerLuke View Post
    $1000 a month? Troll thread confirmed
    I'll delete that line if you think it is "trolling." But no, not a troll thread, not an exaggeration. I am 100% completely honest on that.
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