Worst housing system I have ever seen

[Jojoya]

they shouldn't be able to turn around and lose their house because they can't put a lot of hours into the game for a time or want to play aspects of it that may not provide them much gil.

When it's a limited resource, someone who only intermittently plays the game shouldn't have priority to own a house over someone who is actively playing and would make much more frequent use of it.

Absolutely they should be losing their house under the limited quantity system if they can't be bothered to log in for a few hours each month.

But that takes things back to why an improved instance housing system would be better. No one would have to lose their house when it's stops being a limited resource so someone who's not playing doesn't block someone who is playing from owning one.

Also, why did you bother buying a house when you were so strapped for gil you couldn't even afford to furnish it? That's dumb consumerism, spending what was a fortune to you on a luxury item you don't need and couldn't afford to maintain. You would have been better off learning how to earn and save gil.

If the system required you to pay a monthly fee to continue to own the house, would have you bothered buying it in the first place?

[Alyanna_Elingval]

When it's a limited resource, someone who only intermittently plays the game shouldn't have priority to own a house over someone who is actively playing and would make much more frequent use of it.

Absolutely they should be losing their house under the limited quantity system if they can't be bothered to log in for a few hours each month.

But that takes things back to why an improved instance housing system would be better. No one would have to lose their house when it's stops being a limited resource so someone who's not playing doesn't block someone who is playing from owning one.

Also, why did you bother buying a house when you were so strapped for gil you couldn't even afford to furnish it? That's dumb consumerism, spending what was a fortune to you on a luxury item you don't need and couldn't afford to maintain. You would have been better off learning how to earn and save gil.

If the system required you to pay a monthly fee to continue to own the house, would have you bothered buying it in the first place?

I wasn't unable to maintain the house, it was a choice to do something else. When I did the home is where the heart is quest, I said I'm getting a house and put everything on hold to accomplish that goal. My first jobs to level 50 were crafting and gathering. When I got my house I took a break from all that gil grinding and got back to the story. The only crafting and gathering I did was gear.

If I wanted to take a break from this much gathering and crafting everyday. COnstantly watching the MB, I was well within my rights.



After I unlocked HW I went back and finished decorating my house. But that's how the game goes, in ebbs and flows, whether it be your playtime, or what you're focusing on in game. People shouldn't be forced to have to continually keep making gil once they've purchased their house if they want to do other things with their time in-game. Or if life happens and they can't put a lot of hours into the game they should be penalized dealing with things so that they have no house when they do have more time to play. It's not giving players priority it's letting them keep what they earned when they were putting in the time. Just because someone new comes along that can play a lot, doesn't mean that veterans who put a lot of time in prior should be walked over because they may not be able to do so now. The whole just because I can play right now and you can't I should get priority is nonsense.

Also, I need no help in making and saving gil. I made a plan from the start to level crafters and gatherers first, and I've gone from that small house, to a medium to a large, as well as geared most classes in the game hardly investing any gil from day one.

[Jojoya]

I wasn't unable to maintain the house, it was a choice to do something else. When I did the home is where the heart is quest, I said I'm getting a house and put everything on hold to accomplish that goal.

The quest doesn't say you're getting a house. It said that houses are being sold to adventurers without going into detail about how to get one unless you take the time to talk to the Resident Caretaker as the quest suggests. There was no stated guarantee that you'd be able to get one.

I'm glad you did manage to get one after you made it your goal to do so.

But you still haven't answered my question about what you would have done if there was a monthly fee required to retain the house at the time you were ready to purchase. Would it have influenced your decision so you didn't buy or would you have accepted it was going to be that little bit of extra effort to keep the house?

Just because someone new comes along that can play a lot, doesn't mean that veterans who put a lot of time in prior should be walked over because they may not be able to do so now. The whole just because I can play right now and you can't I should get priority is nonsense.

It's not nonsense when a limited resource is involved.

If houses didn't demo, the majority of them would be owned by people who stopped playing the game years ago. Those of us who came later would be out of luck, stuck staring at unused houses owned by people who don't play and likely won't be coming back.

There has to be a form of demolition when housing isn't unlimited, and that means people who have quit playing need to lose out so those who are playing get their chance.

I've gone from that small house, to a medium to a large, as well as geared most classes in the game hardly investing any gil from day one.

So then you know better than to say you'd have to stop playing the rest of the game to focus on making gil if housing had a monthly fee.

The game throws a lot of gil at you passively through normal game play, and that normal game play presents even more opportunities to make gil if you take an extra half hour a week to convert the tomestone and other items you get into gil.

[Alyanna_Elingval]

The quest doesn't say you're getting a house. It said that houses are being sold to adventurers without going into detail about how to get one.

But you still haven't answered my question about what you would have done if there was a monthly fee required to retain the house at the time you were ready to purchase.


It's not nonsense when a limited resource is involved.

If houses didn't demo, the majority of them would be owned by people who stopped playing the game years ago. Those of us who came later would be out of luck, stuck staring at unused houses owned by people who don't play and likely won't be coming back.

There has to be a form of demolition when housing isn't unlimited, and that means people who have quit playing need to lose out so those who are playing get their chance.


So then you know better than to say you'd have to stop playing the rest of the game to focus on making gil if housing had a monthly fee.
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Man, you look at statements and just make wild assumptions.

Where did I say a house was promised to me? All I said was after I saw houses during the quest I made it my goal to get one. If houses would have came with a tax I would have still gotten one, why would I not have? I had all the means I needed to make gil. Also, no one said you have to stop doing everything else to make gil. I said after focusing on making gil in the way I wanted a break for it for a while.

Also, since you want to talk about bad consumerism as if this is real life. If we want to act like this game should real-life principles, houses would never be this cheap with this demand. They would be closer to what they were in the beginning and we wouldn't even have this issue. Taxes in real life go towards something, they're investments in your neighbourhood and city. They serve no purpose here other than a means to take something someone bought.

I also never said people who have quit the game should keep their houses, but that's not we're talking about here. Let's just say what is really going on. You have people who don't have something trying to think of ways to take it from people that have it, even though they're active players. If you don't play the amount of hours we deem acceptable, you lose your house. If you don't pay some arbitrary tax amount that goes towards nothing, you lose your house. Do we really want some type of arbitrary minimum hour threshold to keep your property? If you want to go play Greedfall, or Jedi Fallen Order, you come back and your house is gone because you didn't put in 20-30 hours a week in FF XIV. Like I said it's ridiculous. We shouldn't be trying to come up with ways to take things from players who are playing the game.