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    Jojoya's Avatar
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    I seen worse housing systems in MMOs. LotRO when I tried that game about 7 years ago immediately comes to mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by Delphinus View Post
    The game buries you in decorations and expects you to try and win the lottery for getting a plot.
    The game doesn't expect you to do it. It lets you decide if you want to try.

    You can use most of the housing items obtained through normal game play in apartments. You only need a plot for the outdoor items and those usually are an optional purchase you're free not to make.

    Quote Originally Posted by Delphinus View Post
    I know why the devs dont fix this, they are using this as incentive to move to a less populated data center/server. Do not give in, keep putting the pressure on to add more plots and fix the housing issue!
    Of course it's one incentive to get players to move to lesser populated servers where housing is already available. They aren't going to add more wards when that's going to create even more vacancies on worlds that already have plots available.

    Quote Originally Posted by Delphinus View Post
    also they should investigate monopolies hard. housing Monopolies are against TOS and there is tons of real estate agents anyway selling and buying plots using their accounts and their families accounts.
    Where does it state that in the ToS?

    I doubt the flippers are using the accounts of family members when an individual can have multiple server accounts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Delphinus View Post
    Now all of that aside the method of obtaining a plot is literally the lottery which favors people with alot more time to play the game
    I can't think of a MMO that doesn't give advantages to people with more time to play. It's hard to design a MMO so greater time investment doesn't lead to greater rewards.

    Quote Originally Posted by Delphinus View Post
    (further giving incentive's for people to seek out real estate agents and pay large sums which violates TOS)
    Please quote the portion of the ToS that says this is a violation when only gil is involved.

    Quote Originally Posted by Delphinus View Post
    If your going to make this system as such make it an actual lottery where NO one can own more than one house personally.
    They aren't going to penalize players who legitimately obtained multiple houses when limits were per character, not per account. Forcing those players to give up their additional houses will only help a handful of players and still leave the majority without wanting one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Delphinus View Post
    Maybe an instanced housing option similer to the APTs.
    Now you're onto something. More plots is not the answer. An improved instanced housing system is because then every player, even every character, who wanted a house could get one without creating the strain on server resources that more wards creates. It removes the power of the flippers because there's no reason to try to bribe another player to give up the plot they already own when you can get one directly from the game when you want.

    I've no doubt that have something in store for us with regards to housing improvements but only they know exactly what it is. Let's hope the 5.1 live letter gives us some information.
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    Nena_Mayland's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Now you're onto something. More plots is not the answer. An improved instanced housing system is because then every player, even every character, who wanted a house could get one without creating the strain on server resources that more wards creates. It removes the power of the flippers because there's no reason to try to bribe another player to give up the plot they already own when you can get one directly from the game when you want.

    I've no doubt that have something in store for us with regards to housing improvements but only they know exactly what it is. Let's hope the 5.1 live letter gives us some information.
    This I agree with. I’m certain they know by now that just adding new wards/plots isn’t going solve the problem. And even if they did find more ways to prevent bots or house flippers who just buy plots then sells them at crazy prices, they would just find ways to exploit that system again just like now.

    What they really need to work on is improving apartments and perhaps allowing us to upgrade them with our Gil. They already have the framework and foundations of instanced housing, they just need to evolve or improve on it. I mean I love the crystarium inn suite. Note how it feels more spacious and bigger than the previous inn rooms we had. I think that’s a hint that they’re working on something involving apartments.

    Now I might be wrong and this is just theory crafting but I do think they are working on something, just because there has been no response from them so far doesn’t mean they don’t see or ignoring the problems of our current housing system. But they can’t make promises they can’t keep either.

    But I also hope that they’ll bring it up either at the part 1 of the 5.1 live letter (though I assume it’ll be mostly about the Neir raid) ^^ or they’ll mention it in Part 2.
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