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  1. #9861
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    I don't need them to "address" issues by glazing over them, I need them to fix them before I ever go back to the new races. They are in the planning stages of the next expansions now so I personally don't think it would be a bad thing to say:

    "We messed up by genderlocking the races. It will take some time but we'll work on delivering both of the missing genders as playable in later patches/6.0/7.0/8.0/whatever. Thank you for your input and support."

    Transparency and clarity of what is going on is something that has really frustrated me in the last few months with this game. I remember all of those events and people saying to not worry when yeah, every single one of us who spent money to fantasia to the new races should have been worried about how limited they would be (and potentially remain.) If they don't deliver some good news or start working on more things that interest me there's option D: leaving until I see a reason worth coming back for.
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  3. #9862
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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    -Post/create art in show of your support
    -Keep this thread up so it gets likes
    -Ask about male viera and female hrothgar in Q&A's. Not because you expect a different answer, but to show there is still a demand.
    -Patiently wait
    They don't need reminders, people have already been vocal about it. At this point its white noise, they can't promise it will happen. Repeating the same addressed question doesn't do anything.
    Fanart is nice (Although some of the Tumblr art isn't in my taste) but it doesn't do anything either.
    The thread has less pull then you might believe. And if anybody is actually monitoring the thread, I bet they'd be quite turned off by some of the discussion here.

    Quote Originally Posted by official_coconut View Post
    I don't need them to "address" issues by glazing over them, I need them to fix them before I ever go back to the new races. They are in the planning stages of the next expansions now so I personally don't think it would be a bad thing to say:

    "We messed up by genderlocking the races. It will take some time but we'll work on delivering both of the missing genders as playable in later patches/6.0/7.0/8.0/whatever. Thank you for your input and support."

    Transparency and clarity of what is going on is something that has really frustrated me in the last few months with this game. I remember all of those events and people saying to not worry when yeah, every single one of us who spent money to fantasia to the new races should have been worried about how limited they would be (and potentially remain.) If they don't deliver some good news or start working on more things that interest me there's option D: leaving until I see a reason worth coming back for.
    You're not asking for a fix, your asking for the other Genders. They made One gender for both, this isn't asking for a fix, this is asking for an addition. And your not saying it, but Imma guess you want more Hairstyles. (Which once again....they ALREADY addressed is happening) If not, I apologize for putting words in your mouth.
    Lets say you get your way and they say exactly that....they have just locked themselves into a Promise. They just said they ARE/PLAN to do so/so. What if they can't? What if there is a limitation for X reason? Are we gonna be nice to them and be understanding, or is the exact same thing gonna happen where people badmouth the Dev team?
    You want them to say something they can't say unless they can actually do it.
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  4. #9863
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    They don't need reminders, people have already been vocal about it.
    If people would like male viera and female hrothgar added to the game, they should continue to be vocal about it. As long as no one is being disrespectful to the devs. Change won't happen if you're silent about it.

    I don't think the thread itself or the discussion within the thread has much pull. However, I do think the number of likes on the OP does have some pull.

    As for tumblr art, I don't really browse that, but I think I know what you mean? Like the lacey outfits on male viera? I don't like that, either. I don't really care much about how male viera's racial outfit might look since I'll just change it anyway.
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  5. #9864
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    (...)
    All you can do is Option C.
    (...)
    Ok, you believe in that and I respect you.
    But I believe if we just forget about it, wait and abandon this post (for example), these things will never change. SE can believe that it is all ok, that we (players) not care about this things and so "why we will change? Nobody cares!". And some people thinks like me.
    I know, sometimes people cross the limits, but not everyone. Some people are only here, in this thread. And if they are repeating questions, etc, ok. They are here to make this post alive, to show their suport to it, because they believe that it will help. And if it is anoying you, so ignore them, or simple read another thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

  6. #9865
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    I'm very happy with SE's decision to leave Hrothgar and Viera as they are now.
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  7. #9866
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    You want them to say something they can't say unless they can actually do it.
    Let me know what to expect so I know whether or not I can have any expectations for customization that is to come. I have wanted transparency and clarity always, not broken products. I still consider the new races as such so no I don't think it's more of an addition, rather than a fix so everything can be up to par with the quality of the other races. None of the other races are missing genders or have such limited hairstyles, so I want that to be fixed.
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  8. #9867
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    If people would like male viera and female hrothgar added to the game, they should continue to be vocal about it. As long as no one is being disrespectful to the devs. Change won't happen if you're silent about it.

    I don't think the thread itself or the discussion within the thread has much pull. However, I do think the number of likes on the OP does have some pull.

    As for tumblr art, I don't really browse that, but I think I know what you mean? Like the lacey outfits on male viera? I don't like that, either. I don't really care much about how male viera's racial outfit might look since I'll just change it anyway.
    Change wont happen either if they cant do it. Which is why Yoshi said they Cant say it will or wont happen.

    Most of the art is cutesy to imo. Ive reposted something someone did a few times, thats how I think they should look
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  9. #9868
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quor View Post
    I'm very happy with SE's decision to leave Hrothgar and Viera as they are now.
    I am too. I've very happy with the racial additions and know we'll be getting more additions to both genders. The live letter is on the 15th and perhaps they'll share some of those with us. We'll find out soon enough. Can't wait to hear about the new 24 man as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by official_coconut View Post
    have wanted transparency and clarity always, not broken products.
    It's not a broken product. They are not yet complete but what we have so far is pretty special. Sorry but your continued ragging on the new races hasn't stopped tons of people changing to them. You are certainly entitled to your opinion but it is certainly not shared by everyone.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 09-08-2019 at 10:34 AM.

  10. #9869
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    And you're constant praising of their broken state didn't stop people like me from switching back to the older complete races where we still have our hard earned/purchased hairstyles and headgear.

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    Last edited by official_coconut; 09-08-2019 at 10:36 AM. Reason: added image

  11. #9870
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    Quote Originally Posted by official_coconut View Post
    And you're constant praising of their broken state didn't stop people like me from switching back to the older complete races where we still have our hard earned/purchased hairstyles and headgear.
    LOL get over it. You aren't the game sorry. People switch all the time. Your complaining in here constantly about it hasn't changed the fact that they are everywhere. We'll just have to wait and see won't we.
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