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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    We have been told by some in the community when only female Viera was revealed that we should not be so hasty and to wait until the next fanfest, because SE would never introduce a genderlocked race and we are way too negative. Then came the leak from the french client with the Hrothgars in it and we were still told to wait and not complain. When Hrothgar was revealed but both of them felt already a bit limited we were told to wait and not panic, and when the benchmark dropped and manes were stuck to faces and Viera having only a few hairstyles we were also told to not already complain and wait because we will get more, or more information or "SE would never have Hrothgar players needing RL money to change". The expansion is out for a bit, we had a few events where they gave interviews and one liveletter and yet they barely gave any information about this again. How long should we wait?

    If they have a solution, if they have a plan why not tell us? Maybe people would complain less if we knew more. For example knew how many manes/hairstsyles we will probably get and in which timeline..if we dont get such answer we have to believe that they dont know themselves or are not sure enough about being able to give them to us...
    Anybody who thought we were getting Male Viera...are a little silly. No offense. It can still happen in the future, Maybe, but anyone banking off of the "No Genderlock" thing and expecting it to happen to Viera...just yeah. Im gonna leave it there and Not get into that argument again. Im tiered of repeating it and getting the same counter-argument.
    How long should we wait?.... as long as we need to. And I KNOW many of you will hate that answer...but what else can you do? Either A- Keep bickering and threatening to leave, B- Keep asking the same questions expecting a different answer. or C- Just wait.
    All you can do is Option C.
    As Proven, A & B aren't making waves. Not saying you can't do it, but I think your energy could be better spent elsewhere. There is more to this game then Male Viera and Female Hrothgar. And Hairstyles or Hats. Plus they already addressed hairstyles...sorta

    And see, your asking questions they can't for sure answer. They can't say for sure how many styles they will develop, not definitively at least. They can't share plans unless they know FOR SURE, it will happen. Any estimated number they give, they will be held accountable to. And if they come up short for ANY reason wither its believable or not, they will get castrated for it, and that will lead to more damage then not addressing Male Viera for the 50th time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    what else can you do?
    -Post/create art in show of your support
    -Keep this thread up so it gets likes
    -Ask about male viera and female hrothgar in Q&A's. Not because you expect a different answer, but to show there is still a demand.
    -Patiently wait
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
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    All you can do is Option C.
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    Ok, you believe in that and I respect you.
    But I believe if we just forget about it, wait and abandon this post (for example), these things will never change. SE can believe that it is all ok, that we (players) not care about this things and so "why we will change? Nobody cares!". And some people thinks like me.
    I know, sometimes people cross the limits, but not everyone. Some people are only here, in this thread. And if they are repeating questions, etc, ok. They are here to make this post alive, to show their suport to it, because they believe that it will help. And if it is anoying you, so ignore them, or simple read another thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantini View Post
    Ok, you believe in that and I respect you.
    But I believe if we just forget about it, wait and abandon this post (for example), these things will never change. SE can believe that it is all ok, that we (players) not care about this things and so "why we will change? Nobody cares!". And some people thinks like me.
    I know, sometimes people cross the limits, but not everyone. Some people are only here, in this thread. And if they are repeating questions, etc, ok. They are here to make this post alive, to show their suport to it, because they believe that it will help. And if it is anoying you, so ignore them, or simple read another thread.
    Nobody is gonna forget. But constantly bombarding the devs with "Male Viera" like the chat did during the last live letter before ShB dropped isn't gonna solve or get anybody what they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Nobody is gonna forget. But constantly bombarding the devs with "Male Viera" like the chat did during the last live letter before ShB dropped isn't gonna solve or get anybody what they want.
    As I said before, people cross the limits sometimes. But this thread is just for ask about male vieras and things like that, so HERE (and only here), it's normal people to be insistent
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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    This is not a support thread. I would say maybe 25% of it yeah, but the rest is complaining, wondering if they will be tall, short, or in between. Will they have muscles or be more fem. A lot more "yes it is", "no it isn't" back and forth by a handful of the same people. A nice little thumbs up and less groaning at each other would show more support to SE. They don't want to weed through this mess. They already know some want the gender, a long time ago. What are you going to do next when they might say "no"? Fall on the floor and have tantrums?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arazehl View Post
    This is not a support thread. I would say maybe 25% of it yeah, but the rest is complaining, wondering if they will be tall, short, or in between. Will they have muscles or be more fem. A lot more "yes it is", "no it isn't" back and forth by a handful of the same people. A nice little thumbs up and less groaning at each other would show more support to SE. They don't want to weed through this mess. They already know some want the gender, a long time ago. What are you going to do next when they might say "no"? Fall on the floor and have tantrums?
    they dont look at this thread fro feedback, they just know a huge amount of ppl want it and its basically almost twice as big as the second biggest thread on this forums. If the devs say no then they can expect to have huge backlash from the community, and it is only fair for someone to complain if they dont like something, specially if that someone is a customer paying a monthly fee for a service
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    they dont look at this thread fro feedback, they just know a huge amount of ppl want it and its basically almost twice as big as the second biggest thread on this forums. If the devs say no then they can expect to have huge backlash from the community, and it is only fair for someone to complain if they dont like something, specially if that someone is a customer paying a monthly fee for a service
    Second biggest thread which has a lot people who are indifferent one way or the other, or they are arguing hypothetically over something that hasn't happened. A lot of these posts are from the same few who post over and over bumping the thread. Take those away and you'll find this thread is not as huge as you make it. Rather than a poll of players votes with yes or no, it's a bunch of garble mixed in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    or C- Just wait.
    All you can do is Option C.
    As Proven, A & B aren't making waves. Not saying you can't do it, but I think your energy could be better spent elsewhere. There is more to this game then Male Viera and Female Hrothgar. And Hairstyles or Hats. Plus they already addressed hairstyles...sorta
    And yet a lot of the changes only came because of people not just simply waiting (and being silent on this). Do you think we would have gotten all the new wards after Shirogane savage, if people have not rightfully complained loudly on the internet about this? (Including negative articles about it on other sites) What about the male bunny outfit? They took such a long time but at least were reminded a lot of times that people still wanted it. Look at egi glamours, especially the carbuncles.

    If people at such topics just complain for a week and then let it drop do you really think that this makes the change? No I dont think so. I do believe that it would just mean to them "well the negative ones are silent and the rest does not say much, then we can ignore that problem" while having people still complain/talk/ask about it months later shows interest.

    And as long as it remains civil, let people discuss things, even if its already done enough. Nobody is forced to read a thread and those that still find interest in it will continue to do so.
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