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    JarvisAulin's Avatar
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    Jarvis Aulin
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    Warrior has probably the best kit at keeping itself alive with a decent party buff that grants an AoE shield instead of magic damage only. Warrior damage is only slightly behind the other three tanks by less than 200 dps. It's not reasonable to ask for a damage buff to Warrior because any damage buff would just make it the best tank again and YoshiP already stated he did not want Warrior to be the best and he does not intend to make changes to tank damage.
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    Greywolfamakir's Avatar
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    Greywolf Amakir
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by JarvisAulin View Post
    Warrior has probably the best kit at keeping itself alive with a decent party buff that grants an AoE shield instead of magic damage only. Warrior damage is only slightly behind the other three tanks by less than 200 dps. It's not reasonable to ask for a damage buff to Warrior because any damage buff would just make it the best tank again and YoshiP already stated he did not want Warrior to be the best and he does not intend to make changes to tank damage.
    Totally agree.

    People want the highest amount of personal CDs and the highest DPS, why? because old expansions..."Warrior was the best tank in Heavensward and was top DPS in Stormblood, and now in Shadowbringers we have a lot of personals CDs but we aren't top DPS, it can't be !!!! ". Something like that.
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JarvisAulin View Post
    Warrior has probably the best kit at keeping itself alive with a decent party buff that grants an AoE shield instead of magic damage only. Warrior damage is only slightly behind the other three tanks by less than 200 dps. It's not reasonable to ask for a damage buff to Warrior because any damage buff would just make it the best tank again and YoshiP already stated he did not want Warrior to be the best and he does not intend to make changes to tank damage.
    Except it doesn't. First and foremost, virtually every raid wide AoE in the game is magic damage. Therefore, it's rather moot. Dark Knight has far better defensive options; Paladin is better as an OT and all three tanks do higher damage. Now that isn't to say Warrior is bad. It isn't. But it doesn't excel in any area beyond HP recovery—which isn't nearly as valuable given how much healers can heal for. Furthermore, Warrior does not benefit from half the raid buffs the other tanks do, and is prone to much bigger losses due to how Inner Chaos, IR and Fell Cleave work. No one is asking Warrior be the best tank again, but as it currently stands, it's the worst in almost every category. Again, not by a large margin but enough that some small tweaks would go a long way.
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    BarretOblivion's Avatar
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    Tamamo Cat
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    Hyperion
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JarvisAulin View Post
    Warrior has probably the best kit at keeping itself alive with a decent party buff that grants an AoE shield instead of magic damage only. Warrior damage is only slightly behind the other three tanks by less than 200 dps. It's not reasonable to ask for a damage buff to Warrior because any damage buff would just make it the best tank again and YoshiP already stated he did not want Warrior to be the best and he does not intend to make changes to tank damage.

    No, PLD has the best kit at keeping itself alive. Its called clemency. WAR dies as soon as it can't target someone with Nascent flash which is already a 'meh' heal. Soon PLD will have almost the same mitigation as WAR when we get even better shields with more block. WAR is pretty darn worthless outside of specific fights that throw alot of forced tank swap tankbusters. Eden Prime? Don't use WAR. E2S? (can't remember the name right now of the boss XP) WAR is clunky at best in there. Leviathan? Well WAR/DRK combo is great there but... vengeance is a dead skill so its going to deal even less damage than it could in any other fight. Titan? F no. Bring a PLD/DRK in there or even a GNB, WAR is straight up trash in that fight basically requiring much more work than you need in it.

    WAR doesn't need a potency buff... it needs a rework. Holy crap does it play like dog crap outside of IR, its the worst feeling tank job by a long shot even with DRK's clunkiness.
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