Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2
Results 11 to 15 of 15
  1. #11
    Player
    Ryaz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Location
    Mist Ward 21, Plot 45
    Posts
    1,845
    Character
    Ryaz Darksbane
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    They need to buff Physick for SMN is well. The amount it heals compared to RDMs Vercure is ridiculously small.
    (1)

  2. #12
    Player
    Shurrikhan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    12,856
    Character
    Tani Shirai
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    Tell that to BLMs... we only have a shield. RIP Drain.
    Your shield is literally the most powerful mitigation tool in the game offered to any DPS.

    Hell, other than Fists of Earth (which costs 10% DPS) and Third Eye (each at a measly 10%, a sixth of the value of a Manaward against a 50% HP attack, and generally unable to save anyone) and a GCD-, pet-uptime, and resource- costing Earthen Ward (at best two-thirds the value of Manaward), it is the ONLY self-mitigation available to DPS. Manaward is vastly more powerful, (apart from one ability) more frequent, and free. The only other job with free mitigation is SAM, and it's only there to add apm and a layer of complexity to Seigan.

    You are badly overestimating the power of DPS heals, even if heals somehow weren't inherently less valuable to shields.
    (4)

  3. #13
    Player
    Numenor1379's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    376
    Character
    Lucius Magnus
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Your shield is literally the most powerful mitigation tool in the game offered to any DPS.

    Hell, other than Fists of Earth (which costs 10% DPS) and Third Eye (each at a measly 10%, a sixth of the value of a Manaward against a 50% HP attack, and generally unable to save anyone) and a GCD-, pet-uptime, and resource- costing Earthen Ward (at best two-thirds the value of Manaward), it is the ONLY self-mitigation available to DPS. Manaward is vastly more powerful, (apart from one ability) more frequent, and free. The only other job with free mitigation is SAM, and it's only there to add apm and a layer of complexity to Seigan.

    You are badly overestimating the power of DPS heals, even if heals somehow weren't inherently less valuable to shields.
    100% agree with everything you said... that's why I mentioned Drain. It was a small, but SPAMMABLE, heal that we could use for the odd solo content when we don't have our chocobos.
    (0)

  4. #14
    Player
    Satarn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    522
    Character
    K'rheya Tia
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GavynG View Post
    there's no reason why melee DPS shouldn't have a bit more survival than they currently have(plus it makes the game more fun).
    As melee you've got: Second Wind, Bloodbath, Arm's Lenght(the slow works great as mitigation for mobs and on bosses you got a healer) and Feint. SAM also has Third Eye and Merciful Eyes, MNK Fists and Riddle of Earth and NIN Shade Shift. That's a lot if you're talking soloing.

    Heck, I've tanked reasonably sized trash pulls on NIN for a good while, after tank derped and died or just somehow couldn't keep aggro.

    That said, even on the non-melee, nothing in solo content really lives long enough to be a threat if you're a DPS job and in group content you've got tanks and healers - your best defense is offense, that's kinda the point of this role in the trinity.
    (0)

  5. #15
    Player
    Hasrat's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Posts
    3,288
    Character
    Hashmael Lightswain
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    Still better than a single shield and potions. =(
    As a BLM, why in the world would you be using potions when ethers are probably eating up the medicine cooldown? =p
    (1)

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2