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    Current BLM AoE rotation?

    I just recently started playing and ended up getting kicked out of a group because I was not doing enough AoE according to the tank. Can someone please tell me what the lvl 80 AoE rotation for BLM is?
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    Estelle Joyeaux
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    If there are 3-4 mobs, rotation is Freeze -> (Enochian if it isn't already up) Thunder IV -> Fire III -> Flare -> Flare -> back to Freeze. If Manafont is up, use that after the second Flare to squeeze another Flare in. If there are 5+ mobs, skip Fire III and go straight to Flare after Thunder IV. When Polyglot is up, throw out Foul. Use Triplecast and Swiftcast before your Flares for movement/speed. Drop Leylines in there as well if it's up.

    That all being said, what AoE rotation were you doing? I'd expect the tank to at least say something about what your rotation should look like before kicking you, so either your tank was a jerk or you were doing your single-target rotation during trash pulls.
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    Last edited by Seraph522; 08-31-2019 at 03:27 PM.

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    Arlan Knighthold
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph522 View Post
    If there are 3-4 mobs, rotation is Freeze -> (Enochian if it isn't already up) Thunder IV -> Fire III -> Flare -> Flare -> back to Freeze. If Manafont is up, use that after the second Flare to squeeze another Flare in. If there are 5+ mobs, skip Fire III and go straight to Flare after Thunder IV. When Polyglot is up, throw out Foul. Use Triplecast and Swiftcast before your Flares for movement/speed. Drop Leylines in there as well if it's up.

    That all being said, what AoE rotation were you doing? I'd expect the tank to at least say something about what your rotation should look like before kicking you, so either your tank was a jerk or you were doing your single-target rotation during trash pulls.
    This, pretty much.

    The basic AoE combo for BLM that has served me just fine at the moment is Freeze > Thunder IV > Fire III > Flare > Flare > Freeze & Sharpcast (if available) > Repeat from Thunder IV

    The way you open up the rotation is Sharpcast > Freeze > Enochian > Thunder IV > Fire III > (as above)

    If you have manafont up, you can use triple cast for a triple flare by doing: Fire III & Triple Cast > Flare > Flare & Manafont > Flare > Freeze

    Freeze now gives Ice III and one umbral heart and can be cast from 0mp after the second flare. You use that one heart in order to be able to do 2 flares per fire rotation. Use fouls in ice phase. Use leylines in decently long fights etc.
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    I wasnt really doing an AoE rotation. Basically I was just adding flare and foul as often as I could to the single target rotation. The tank just called me bad and kicked me just before the final boss in Amaurot. I figured I was fine because I was doing almost 10k damage and I've run the dungeon plenty of times. Thanks for the information though! I was having trouble finding an AoE rotation online for shadowbringers.
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    In a dungeon BLM should be near or above 18k DPS.
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    In a dungeon BLM should be near or above 18k DPS.
    This number is completely unrealistic and only achieved by 99 percentile black mages. Barely. Don't listen to him

    A good BLM can be expected to do 14-16k dps in level 80 dungeons. If someone is new to level 80 dungeons around 10-14k for a BLM is expected and not deserving of being kicked.

    As for advice to the OP... have you melded your gear yet? Even without overmelding, it will lead to around a 40% increase in your dps.

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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 09-02-2019 at 04:42 PM.

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    Greetings and well met!

    I've been playing FFXIV for about a month, boosted a BLM to 70, and this link has helped me immensely.
    Good luck & Have fun!

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...h.91acmt9ler23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orablast View Post
    Greetings and well met!

    I've been playing FFXIV for about a month, boosted a BLM to 70, and this link has helped me immensely.
    Good luck & Have fun!

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...h.91acmt9ler23
    The sad part about this, is that you need something like this to play one class in the game. If I have to fill out an application and turn this into a career, there's a serious problem with the class, lol. I am actually leveling a BLM now, and it's the most cumbersome class there is in this game, worse than SMN all day long.
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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    The sad part about this, is that you need something like this to play one class in the game. If I have to fill out an application and turn this into a career, there's a serious problem with the class, lol. I am actually leveling a BLM now, and it's the most cumbersome class there is in this game, worse than SMN all day long.
    Huh? BLM is one of the simplest jobs in the game. You can succeed at it just knowing the basic ST and AoE rotations. Everything else in that guide is just optimization and mostly obvious on the fly. E.g. chaining more F4 possible during ley lines, etc.
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 09-04-2019 at 03:55 AM.

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    Botanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    The sad part about this, is that you need something like this to play one class in the game. If I have to fill out an application and turn this into a career, there's a serious problem with the class, lol. I am actually leveling a BLM now, and it's the most cumbersome class there is in this game, worse than SMN all day long.
    I... what? Black Mage is like, the easiest job to understand in the game. Fire good, ice bad, big hot hurty spell is strong so you want to cast it a lot, small hot hurty spell lets you keep astral fire up so you can keep casting big hot hurty spell, then you run out of explosion points and then use cold-but-not-very-hurty spell to get your explosion points back... and then you just cast more big hot hurty spells.
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