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    Tell that to BLMs... we only have a shield. RIP Drain.
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    Also please bring back Drain.
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    Owa Owa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    Tell that to BLMs... we only have a shield. RIP Drain.
    Rather have the shield. Can't heal myself if I died. It was good insurance if I messed up and got vuln.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    Tell that to BLMs... we only have a shield. RIP Drain.
    *Laughs in summoner* At level 80 our heal heals for 800hp! and titan shield requires 1 GCD to cast summon titan, and then you have to pray you have egi-assault stacks extra and they pray he decides to actually cast it in time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atamis View Post
    *Laughs in summoner* At level 80 our heal heals for 800hp! and titan shield requires 1 GCD to cast summon titan, and then you have to pray you have egi-assault stacks extra and they pray he decides to actually cast it in time!
    Heh, well you do also have the HoT from Phoenix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    Heh, well you do also have the HoT from Phoenix.
    Yea. I love that bird. Its not a super good hot or on demand, but he tries atleast. Unlike bahamut or the egis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atamis View Post
    Yea. I love that bird. Its not a super good hot or on demand, but he tries atleast. Unlike bahamut or the egis.
    Still better than a single shield and potions. =(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    Still better than a single shield and potions. =(
    As a BLM, why in the world would you be using potions when ethers are probably eating up the medicine cooldown? =p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    Tell that to BLMs... we only have a shield. RIP Drain.
    Your shield is literally the most powerful mitigation tool in the game offered to any DPS.

    Hell, other than Fists of Earth (which costs 10% DPS) and Third Eye (each at a measly 10%, a sixth of the value of a Manaward against a 50% HP attack, and generally unable to save anyone) and a GCD-, pet-uptime, and resource- costing Earthen Ward (at best two-thirds the value of Manaward), it is the ONLY self-mitigation available to DPS. Manaward is vastly more powerful, (apart from one ability) more frequent, and free. The only other job with free mitigation is SAM, and it's only there to add apm and a layer of complexity to Seigan.

    You are badly overestimating the power of DPS heals, even if heals somehow weren't inherently less valuable to shields.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Your shield is literally the most powerful mitigation tool in the game offered to any DPS.

    Hell, other than Fists of Earth (which costs 10% DPS) and Third Eye (each at a measly 10%, a sixth of the value of a Manaward against a 50% HP attack, and generally unable to save anyone) and a GCD-, pet-uptime, and resource- costing Earthen Ward (at best two-thirds the value of Manaward), it is the ONLY self-mitigation available to DPS. Manaward is vastly more powerful, (apart from one ability) more frequent, and free. The only other job with free mitigation is SAM, and it's only there to add apm and a layer of complexity to Seigan.

    You are badly overestimating the power of DPS heals, even if heals somehow weren't inherently less valuable to shields.
    100% agree with everything you said... that's why I mentioned Drain. It was a small, but SPAMMABLE, heal that we could use for the odd solo content when we don't have our chocobos.
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