Have we given up on SCH?

[Saefinn]

I've already given my two cents plenty of times and given it a chance and am already sticking to another job until SE at least say something. Because I don't know how much they're looking at. Nor do I know when issues will be addressed, so I figure I enjoy the game instead.

But all in all, I like the heal toolkit, just I don't find myself needing to take advantage of it a lot of the time and in downtime I'm bored.

They address this then I'm cool. It doesn't have to be exactly as I want it.

My problems with Scholar have never been that it's powerful, heck I'd be happier if it was less powerful because then I have to use my heal toolkit more efficiently.

[DenzelVilliers]

I think healers are what they are now, and i already dealt with it. There's going to have some changes?, of course it is, but i think there's no come back for AoE DoTs like it was before as people are asking for, and if that happens someday SCH isn't the only one who deserves it back, so a thread about all healers should be made not only one. SCH at this moment are the best Healers and have a decent DPS, they got Energy Drain back, Art of War MP requiriment is the same than Holy/Gravity now, their Lv80 skill are the best one imo as well, their Healing CDs are the best by far, they are in a perfect position. In my opnion WHM and AST has more stuff to fix than SCH right now.

[Clouse_Cleyra]

Omg stop crying.
These forums are just people asking for changes

[Hatstand]

Omg stop crying.
These forums are just people asking for changes

Because a lot of people want changes. If you want to use these forums for something else, go for it.

[Clouse_Cleyra]

Because a lot of people want changes. If you want to use these forums for something else, go for it.

Is a healer.
You can heal savage.
You can heal dungeons.
You can heal msq.
You can even do dps on all of that content.

Whats wrong?

[Saefinn]

Is a healer.
You can heal savage.
You can heal dungeons.
You can heal msq.
You can even do dps on all of that content.

Whats wrong?

I mean, there’s threads and threads that answer your question.

The main one is finding healing less and less interesting because there’s too much down time in the majority of content and what we do in our downtime is boring. The healing jobs feel less engaging than they used to and they feel like they’re getting more and more dumbed down. To the point some like myself have moved roles to avoid being bored so we can enjoy the job we play.

I started playing SCH on release of ARR and mained it since and it was a lot of fun to play as a job, but healing itself has felt like it has been watered down over time and making our downtime being greater. SCH has technically been OP since HW and whilst it was a novelty at first, OP gets boring when you’re a healer. And this expansion has made what we used to do in our downtime boring as heck, but I already found the healing aspect boring in SB, but still could at least weave a better variety of moves between heals, which I can no long do. There’s just little satisfaction in it anymore.

I’m a guy who loves playing healers and was happy with SCH and want to keep playing it but doesn’t enjoy it in its current state, so of course I’m going to try and push things get better.

[Clouse_Cleyra]

Also people keep complaining about Seraph... Am I the only one that consider it a pretty strong healing move?

[Saefinn]

Also people keep complaining about Seraph... Am I the only one that consider it a pretty strong healing move?

Not massively strong, but useful and I like Seraph.


In actuality I like SCH's healing toolkit, I prefer what in terms of actual healing spells this time around to how it was in Stormblood. But one of the issues is that I don't really have a need to utilise them for most content. As I've said before in these threads. One of three things needs to happen:

1) The content pushes us to better utilise our healing toolkit and to push us to optimise how we heal more, to make healing more engaging and reduce our downtime. (This would be a logistical problem with existing content)
2) Jobs are adjusted & balanced so healing is less efficient so we are pushed to utilise our healing tool more so we can increase our efficiency as healers and reduce our downtime.
3) We accept that downtime is a thing and they make our downtime interesting. (This would arguably be the easy fix & doesn't negatively impact less experienced healers or those learning things like savage)

[vtndll]

Yes, I have given up on sch, and healers in general this expansion. Sch has been my main since heavensward and I haven't really been on it this expansion.

I might be the only one that feels this way, but I would have preferred square enix changed nothing and just left healers in their stormblood state this expansion then implement these changes. I believe if they would have done that and bolted on 3-4 new skills you get from 70-80 it would have been more "balanced" than what we currently got.

[DenzelVilliers]

Who the hell is Momo?, i see that everytime someone says anything about Healers that they disagree, that person is considered a "Momo disciple" or something like that, i never heard about Momo in my life, it'sa Streamer?, a Youtuber?, the only one i know is Mizteqq for some Guides.

Anyway...

Also people keep complaining about Seraph... Am I the only one that consider it a pretty strong healing move?

Seraph is by far the best Healer Lv80 skill while WHM's Temperance is the worst, really, especially in Dungeons i never use Temperance at all because isn't necessary. Temperance +5% Damage Potency would be a lot better and usefull than +10% Damage Reduction.

I don't see any reason to complain about Seraph when you have Temperance and Neutral Sect in other hand, like i said, in general SCH is already in a perfect spot and people are mostly asking for old skill to come back and more buttons to smash and claming that as a "issue", because "the job is boring to play" instead a real issue in their skills, SCH real issues has already been fixed like spaming heals to build Fairy Gauge and huge MP amout for Arts of War, while WHM and AST are the ones at this moment who really need some fix, but 90% of time someone ask for a WHM fix people say, for example: "Did Momo said that?", "WHM is OP needs a nerf", "WHM has nothing wrong with it" and etc.

Every single day there's at least a new thread about SCH, if people want Shadow, Bane and etc back, create a Thread including all Healers, asking fot Aero III as well, a new AST AoE DoT that never had as well, because they deserves it too. A 4th Healer is never going to see the daylight while people ask for unbalanced stuff, and i want a 4th healer.