What could DRK have learned from FFXI?

[Cabalabob]

Everyone has it in their head that DRK has "always sacrificed hp to do more damage" in every game when this is not even close to truth. Get over it XIV DRK isn't ds Cecil and xi drk. Its a tank and the job story actually tells you why they call themselves Dark Knights.

I’m sorry but wow. I had a good chuckle at people trying to argue classic DRK is a tank, but trying to argue that souleater/darkness is not their iconic ability? Try to say that to anyone who knows FF and the reaction will be “HAHAHAHAHA... wait you’re serious?”.

Basically every main line entry that has had drk except FF2 (abilities weren’t a thing) and the original version of FF3 (added in the remake) has given them souleater or darkness. DRK simply has not had as many main line appearances as other jobs, not appearing in 5 or 9. If you expand the criteria it appears a lot more frequently, X-2, tactics-WoTL, ff-explorers, bravely default and here’s the description of the dark knight job from ff record keeper “A warrior who wields the power of darkness. Sacrificing his own life force to crush his enemies. The dark knight excels in an offensive role”.

[Lyth]

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Actually, anyone who knows Final Fantasy also knows that every game is different. The series is held together by a loose series of homages and references. Ragnarok is a spaceship. Shiva is a motorcycle. The Lucavi are espers. Paladins cast offensive magic. Ifrit takes damage from fire spells. Dark Knight attacks are fuelled by MP as a representation of their life-force instead of HP.

This seems like a strange place to bring out your pitchfork. But that's the nice thing about Final Fantasy. If you don't like how things are done in one game, there are plenty of alternatives.

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I think this needs a longer arrow.

[Seku]

Actually, anyone who knows Final Fantasy also knows that every game is different. The series is held together by a loose series of homages and references. Ragnarok is a spaceship. Shiva is a motorcycle. The Lucavi are espers. Paladins cast offensive magic. Ifrit takes damage from fire spells. Dark Knight attacks are fuelled by MP as a representation of their life-force instead of HP.

This seems like a strange place to bring out your pitchfork. But that's the nice thing about Final Fantasy. If you don't like how things are done in one game, there are plenty of alternatives.


I think this needs a longer arrow.

Ragnarok is different in a lot of games.
Shiva may have been made into a motorcycle, but she kept the fact that she uses ice as a main method of attack. They also didn't try to make her into a tank.
Lucavi being espers? Not sure what this is suppose to mean. In every new game Summons are named something new.
Paladin's are known for having access to white magic in general. Of Their main thing is being a warrior with white magic offensive included. The main thing is that their not a DPS with 0 curing ability.

So no, this is a normal place for people that have been fans of the job to pull out their pitchfork.

Even going by loose references, FF14's Dark Knight doesn't even do a good job at that.