SMN Quests are really difficult after changes

[Madoka]

As someone leveling SMN right now, can I ask how you handled lvl 60 and 63 job quests? I managed to handle 60 by a good 20min of kiting the enemy around a boulder and DoTing him to death. This strategy may not work on this next one (nor is it enjoyable) so I’m wondering what you did in order to better improve my strategy

63's Ifrit-egi is honestly just "come back later" or grab a friend. He hits way too hard for what you have available at 63 gear wise and will kill you from his auto attacks alone unless you just kite him around in a giant circle ruin 2ing or something. Which is not something you should be forced to do.

[odym82]

63's Ifrit-egi is honestly just "come back later" or grab a friend. He hits way too hard for what you have available at 63 gear wise and will kill you from his auto attacks alone unless you just kite him around in a giant circle ruin 2ing or something. Which is not something you should be forced to do.

I’m glad I’m not the only one going through this currently

[Madoka]

I’m glad I’m not the only one going through this currently

I was i260 something when I first tried it (lv 62 gear is 265, and HW tome gear is ~260 I think) and would get him down to just below half pretty regularly with garuda or ifrit and survived until about 25% of his hp with titan's shielding. Then decided to just come do it later since it doesn't unlock new skills and walking back was a pain. I'm not sure if the 66 fight is rough, I just waited til I was 70 and got a book off the market to do them all.
There was one other quest which gave me troubles but I was able to do it barely after a few tries and I can't recall which one it is.

To the guy saying the OP is just playing wrong or pulling too much, the 63 fights are just 2v1 and then 1v1. The fight was absolutely designed with titan-egi in mind. All the smn/arcanist quests before 70 were. Saying you didn't have a problem means nothing when the facts are the fight was designed a certain way and the changes to egi targetting messed with it.

[Hasrat]

Did the 63 quest at 63, with full i270 (remember that you can augment Shire gear for that 10 ilvl boost). Did lose once. Tried again, putting more effort in, and it wasn't too bad. I'd say the most important part is definitely just waiting after each fight until all your cooldowns are up. That point alone is why I would say the quests aren't as bad as they might seem. SMN has so many oGCDs to throw, it's not a huge problem. Just be sure you're throwing everything. Using Ifrit the whole time, mind. Titan not worth the trouble.

Admittedly, I did also have chocobo out, largely due to threads like this suggesting it would be a struggle without. Maybe that made a difference, maybe not. Did also throw a potion on the hotbar, figuring I never use them otherwise, may as well help me here.

[Anvaire]

I did them all before the change and i never used titan once. I always used ifrit or Ruda.

[Madoka]

Did the 63 quest at 63, with full i270 (remember that you can augment Shire gear for that 10 ilvl boost). Did lose once. Tried again, putting more effort in, and it wasn't too bad. I'd say the most important part is definitely just waiting after each fight until all your cooldowns are up. That point alone is why I would say the quests aren't as bad as they might seem. SMN has so many oGCDs to throw, it's not a huge problem. Just be sure you're throwing everything. Using Ifrit the whole time, mind. Titan not worth the trouble.

Admittedly, I did also have chocobo out, largely due to threads like this suggesting it would be a struggle without. Maybe that made a difference, maybe not. Did also throw a potion on the hotbar, figuring I never use them otherwise, may as well help me here.

Chocobo actually would help a ton. and that you barely made it at 270 and with a chocobo speaks a lot about the quests. They're designed under the assumption you aren't in cutting edge gear since it's very likely a new player or someone who mainly plays for the story is doing that quest and won't be decked out in tome gear or last tier raid gear. The story quests up to that point give like i260 gear

[RokkuEkkusu]

My item level on my gear is 211. Doing the usual openers of setting / reapplying DoTs and spamming Ruin3 when Trance is up. In between Trances its all egi abilities and Energy Drain -> Fester/Pain Flare and more Ruin3

That item level is too low for a level 60 at that point. You should be item level 255 or higher as Summoner. Don't forget to use your excess poetic tomestones at Idyllshire for item level 260 gear as others have mentioned.

You can do the best rotations ever, but if your gear is not up to date when you reach the next level, you make it harder for yourself that necessary.

[WhimsicalPacifist]

You honestly shouldn't focus on gearing your SMN at all right now on level; it's a pointless waste of time (and Poetics that should be delegated to Anima, you outlevel gear but Glamours are forever) considering the time it takes for DPS queues to pop. Just use the SCH schoolbus and take it straight to level 70, pick up a mix of caster gear spamming dungeons on the SCH and fill the gaps in with random merchant set pieces. Suddenly you'll downscale down like you're in perfect level 60 gear with an i275 Anima and should wipe it easily.

For a point of reference, the last dungeon in the HW MSQ drops i245 gear. Nidhogg is i205. The level 60 class SMN set is i200. At the original launch of the quest you were not expected to have to be geared out in raid gear just to complete the class quest on level. Just ignore the quest for now.

[hynaku]

I did all quests before 5.0 came out and had no problems. Only one that was kind of hard was the level 70 quest. Not once have ever had problem with titan not being able to hold agro went tanking. Did then all but level 70 one with dungeon gear.

[Nithralder]

Summoner is garbage now with the Shadowbringers changes with the new pet changes.