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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Well then, I'll repost

    "To fix fishing, you make the AST just play the card that comes up by removing or adding longer cooldowns on things like redraw and undraw. Just play the cards no matter what comes up. You could change sleeve draw to pull the card you want every 180s and even add an ability that would either double or half the value of the card. Even if you pull a MND or Tenacity card, that job is still going to contribute to the raid, plus it has the added benefits of increase healing and defense. "
    This is the same problem as the other poster. You completely gut AST to remove fishing. AST is already in a state currently where it's barely worth bringing, but you are suggesting:

    1. Nerfing the card system
    2. Removing the ability to try and change useless cards

    So you basically are removing the one thing holding AST together, and in an attempt to making it have to deal with RNG, making it the worst class. At this point, you might as well just suggest deleting AST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    This is the same problem as the other poster. You completely gut AST to remove fishing. AST is already in a state currently where it's barely worth bringing, but you are suggesting:

    1. Nerfing the card system
    2. Removing the ability to try and change useless cards

    So you basically are removing the one thing holding AST together, and in an attempt to making it have to deal with RNG, making it the worst class. At this point, you might as well just suggest deleting AST.
    The entire reason the Dev changed the card system to a coin flip was because the community complained about fishing for The Balance. People want most if not all cards to be useful.
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    You are correct - fishing was pretty much a requirement for high level content.
    Giving AST the same cards, but disabling all forms of being able to swap those cards would just make AST horribly weak.

    Fishing sucked, but was required because of how weak the cards were besides Balance/Spear/Arrow. Even then, sometimes it was almost worth it to try and Arrow.

    What you are suggesting isn't bad because it takes away fishing, it's bad because it takes away fishing + gives AST the worse card system. It's the worst of both worlds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    You are correct - fishing was pretty much a requirement for high level content.
    Giving AST the same cards, but disabling all forms of being able to swap those cards would just make AST horribly weak.

    Fishing sucked, but was required because of how weak the cards were besides Balance/Spear/Arrow. Even then, sometimes it was almost worth it to try and Arrow.

    What you are suggesting isn't bad because it takes away fishing, it's bad because it takes away fishing + gives AST the worse card system. It's the worst of both worlds.
    What was my suggest? Honestly it sounds like you want to just remove RNG from it all together? You take away RNG then you can't have strong buffs, it's that simple. More RNG means stronger buffs. It's called a trade off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
    I didn't see this response. Could delete Balance, and then make the other cards like Spire
    ATK down / DEF down or something or another.
    Better than being a balance bot but meh. People are
    too into "But muh Savage raids" to see how boring this job became.
    And from that one guys post in page 1, if you don't do raid, you don't have a say in this lmao.
    The Balance was fixed when they called it Divination.
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    Last edited by Dyvid; 08-24-2019 at 07:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    What was my suggest? Honestly it sounds like you want to just remove RNG from it all together? You take away RNG then you can't have strong buffs, it's that simple. More RNG means stronger buffs. It's called a trade off.
    Fishing still had RNG, just more chances. I'm happy with the current card system. No RNG, no bull, just buffs, and they are all equal with minor differences that dont directly effect the buff

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
    Could delete Balance,
    The Balance card wasn't the issue, the issue was how strong it was compared to other cards.
    Deleting balance = Spear fishing
    Deleting Spear = Arrow fishing
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    Last edited by Hash_Browns; 08-24-2019 at 07:18 AM.

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    I didn't see this response. Could delete Balance, and then make the other cards like Spire
    ATK down / DEF down or something or another.
    Better than being a balance bot but meh. People are
    too into "But muh Savage raids" to see how boring this job became.
    And from that one guys post in page 1, if you don't do raid, you don't have a say in this lmao.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nikolas_Wolfe View Post
    I never said you weren't allowed to offer an opinion.

    You're allowed to voice opinions, you are not however in the right to request a complete class re work just because you don't like it.

    You are still a casual player, you don't main it, therefore you aren't effected by it as heavily as us. You don't need to play it and you feel no pain if you don't

    For those of us who DO main them, our opinions and voices are louder than yours as a casual.
    Very silly post I may add. Too much entitlement like yikes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    Redraw = Fishing

    What? I can heal and draw cards at the same time as long as the tank isn't someone who is pulling wall-to-wall without cooldowns.

    You have 2 minutes to get the correct 3 seals, 3 re-draws with more coming every 30 seconds, Sleevedraw granting you 3 cards, and Minor Arcana making it so you don't draw the wrong seals.

    It should never be an issue.
    Of course it's easier in normal content, now if you can do this in a trial with 8 people
    1. All cards to correct job.
    2. All 3 seals done correctly.
    3. Heal.
    They I'ma commend you for it, as I have rarely seen any AST juggle all that crap at once...
    Let alone try and throw a lot of cards in the middle of chaos.
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    Last edited by Mikhaill; 08-24-2019 at 07:17 AM. Reason: Adding quotes.

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