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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by WanderingStar View Post
    I think what I wrote was misinterpreted. I equated them to computer programs, not hero/antihero.

    Regardless, if tempering is to be used as evidence a primal is evil then...consider Hydaelyn. We have still never seen anyone disobey Hydaelyn which calls into question whether they are tempered by her. This is already a strong theory in my opinion because those with the Blessing of Light cannot be tempered by other Primals. Additionally, anytime Hydaelyn has spoken to anyone with her "blessing" they obey without question - even when it means their death. Her blessing does indeed appear to come with conditions. Again, I'm not saying Hydaelyn is "the big bad" but I am saying that I don't think the fact that Zodiark tempered his followers is evidence that he, as a primal, is evil. I think it's just a function of what they are.

    I think making conclusions like the Amourtines And Zodiark being...tyrants and "death cult god" and such is premature at this time. Perhaps that will be the case, perhaps not. But it's not been depicted as of yet. If Hydaelyn does not require aether for sustenance then this sets her apart from every other creature in the setting. It's possible, but I'll assume it's unlikely for now.
    Did you forget about the Warriors of Darkness?

    Zodiark requires life sacrifice to use his powers. That's a Death Cult by definition.
    I never said he was evil, but he is a tyrant, like most primals, as his base nature is to impose his will, by default he forbids free will.
    He was created as an authoritarian control, to prevent the misuse of creation magicks. He's an iron fist, that's his nature.
    Hydaelyn's creation was a rebellion against that.


    And I think it's much more likely that Hydaelyn and the sundering created the lifestream, given that it's the only thing that seems to transcend the 14 shards, and is probably what sustains her, in a 'renewable energy' sense, as opposed to massive and irreversible sacrifice like Zodiark and other primals.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 08-20-2019 at 05:53 PM.