Quote Originally Posted by Saeno View Post
I understand this isn't entirely related to the topic but WAR was OT for ARR in most if not all groups because competing for aggro against a PLD that only spammed Rage of Halone was annoying. In some fights like T8 people used WAR MT but then it was discovered you could just solo tank all of second coil with a PLD.

WAR imo was a damn good tank for t13 but at the point of final coil, so many people were so dead set on PLD MT that WAR's never really MT'd for that fight. There was also still the issue of competing for aggro when you want your WAR to just spam path and eye on Bahamut, meaning little BB combos.
Huh? What dimension were you playing in? In hardcore groups PLD was almost always OT - Sword oath made PLD top dps tank, and back then magic attacks couldn't be blocked or parried. WAR was almost always MT. Im not sure why you're making mention of agro concerns - PLD in an OT role used Sword oath, not shield oath. Agro was not a concern, if it was then the WAR was bad. Back then Path had no benefits other than the heal, so it was Eye in to BB, path was rarely touched and only used as OT while defiance was on, allowing for wrath accumulation and reducing agro concerns.

Quote Originally Posted by Saeno View Post
Also, I believe Raw intuition is good but it's on par with all of the other tank CD's except HoS. Sheltron lasts longer than Raw and has a shorter recast while also having the flexibility of being used in different areas. You also get 50 gauge every 22.4 seconds meaning it has a shorter theoretical recast than Raw. TBN has a 3k MP cost but any good DRK stays above 3k MP regardless. TBN is also much stronger than all other tank short CDs. I think what makes WAR excel is how universal Thrill is and how good Equilibrium is. No other tank can do what Equilibrium does unless you want to sacrifice DPS on Clemency.
I'd argue that RI is one of the best - Sure, TBN is the best but it can be put on other players, it isnt limited to the caster like RI, and so that comparison only works in a vacuum. RI can literally be used on cooldown to make WAR the tank that takes the less damage overall through the whole fight - affording healers more time to do damage. Rampart and Vengence can be used on tank busters, and TBN, HOS, Intervention can all be cast by the other tank on a WAR MT. Sure, Thrill is nice, but i dont agree with "no other tank can do what equilibirum does" - It has the same potency as Aurora. Also, both Celemency and aurora can be cast on other people, equilibirum can not.

All the facts point to the effect that SE WANTS WAR to be the defacto "Main tank", all its cooldowns are selfish and plentiful, and the only tank that has a healing received increase.