Dark Knight: 5.0x Feedback Thread

[Shurrikhan]

• Have TBN cost no MP. GNB has a similar shield called Heart of Stone that costs no MP, so why can't TBN be the same? Buff the skill by having it cost no MP, have a recast time of 25 seconds, and increase the duration to 9s so it gives more time for the shield to break.

Heart of Stone isn't a shield, it's damage reduction, and it's only 15% not TBNs 25%, and TBN is also essentially free if you time it right and it pops.

I could support making it a tad cheaper, or increasing the duration, but totally free is a bit much.

Why would TBN need even that? You'd need to take what would have been 118% of your max HP over HoS's duration for HoS to actually absorb as much damage as a TBN, despite TBN being on a cooldown only 60% as long. And, they're both free, unless you use TBN stupidly. TBN is absurdly powerful right now, with its only real issue being one of scaling -- eventually no longer being able to pop it when badly overgearing dungeons because it just absorbs so damn much. It, should, by all rights, be reduced towards more like 15% HP on nearer a 25-second cooldown if we're looking for parity...

Don't get me wrong, I think TBN needs its 15s CD; it keeps it way more engaging to absorb the skills between the skills others can absorb with their 25s skills. But, I wouldn't be sad to see it be cut down to 20% HP or even 15%.

And, in the meanwhile, just looking forward to Living Dead being made more intuitive, a Dark Mind adjustment, Abyssal Drain doing far more at low target counts without losing its AoE scaling, self-healing perhaps getting moved to Bloodspiller (and more significantly) for ease of timing, and --above all-- not arbitrarily having certain tankbusters snapshot our mitigation sooner than others (so that if TBN at .7 seconds or so (+ ping) before cast-finish works on one skill, it works on all others, too).

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Depressing to see mention of warrior in dev's live letter and nothing on DRK. *sigh*

[shao32]

don't worry this isn't new for DRK.

[Reynhart]

Depressing to see mention of warrior in dev's live letter and nothing on DRK. *sigh*

Only one question about tanks, and it's about WAR's damage...

At that point, I'd rather have a complain about Onslaught costing gauge...

[LegolasT]

I mean it odvious you all have reservations about jobs but it always the same people complianing.... And just to be honest most of the player base of FFXIV don't use the forums. If they arnt addressing you concerns maybe it because your not on a loud enough source. Look at WAR is stormblood xeno made a huge complaint about the job and many YouTube streamers made the same comolaint. Square acted quick and fixed the issue. DRK had the same treatment in stormblood when guys like Mr happy said the job was seriously lacking and later square said the job needs a rework. Now fast forward to now if you go on Reddit and YouTube Many streamers and players agree the tanks are very balanced and many like DRK ( I happen to as well) all I'm saying is this if you want a change and been complaint for years and no change then maybe your complaining on the wrong mic

[shao32]

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don't want to sound rude but is the same ppl complaing about the ppl that don't like the current version of the job too, if you consider the forums pretty much useless despite they are made as a direct link to the devs then you are waisting your time here.

and the forums actually works, all the feedback given here has been used to improve the game, feedback that you don't see on reddit, it's for some reason the Devs love to complety ignore DRK.

[Reynhart]

And just to be honest most of the player base of FFXIV don't use the forums.

We literally had a topic in the forum to ask questions for that Live Letter.
And the topic was used, because this question about highlighting skills not on your hotbar has been answered. Because it's such an important matter than it got picked above every question regarding Dark Knight.

[IndyRevolutions]

My only feedback currently is, why does DRK not get any fun buttons until level 60+? Paladins get their Oath Gauge, Warriors get their Beast Gauge, and Gunbreakers get their Dust Gauge at level 35/30, but DRK literally doesn't get their AOE combo until level 72. What gives?

I suppose a better way to put it is, why is there such a large disparity at when specific skills are obtained for DRK in comparison to the other 3 jobs?

[ADVSS]

My only feedback currently is, why does DRK not get any fun buttons until level 60+? Paladins get their Oath Gauge, Warriors get their Beast Gauge, and Gunbreakers get their Dust Gauge at level 35/30, but DRK literally doesn't get their AOE combo until level 72. What gives?

I suppose a better way to put it is, why is there such a large disparity at when specific skills are obtained for DRK in comparison to the other 3 jobs?

Probably, delirium. Actually, this time around made the least sense. But it is sort of disheartening that DRK has to start all over at the previous max level. Placing of skills, and not wanting to really backtrack is my best guess. Or lack of really any additional abilities(just traits, in this case). I get the pruning, but that leaves holes where the kit was semi complete. Last reason, maybe its a deterant, you know, to bore the player base from wanting to even max level, or play the job.
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General to previous posts:

Still amazed about the LL, but not too surprised. After a couple good DRK questions in that one thread, then there was a reply in the thread "pls dont ask about job changes till later time" - pretty much summed how it was going to go for me. Still profoundly interested why that question was asked about skills that arent put on the hotbar, but eh it was an easy one to answer so I get why they picked it. Speaking about the mic issue, I'm pretty sure at least one of the "celebs" have mentioned, at least Living Dead, so yeah even they have at least spoken up on at least one of the issues of DRK, so that "give up on the forums cause they only listen to these 2 people" argument is pretty much moot.

[Absimiliard]

Come to think of it, level sync on DRK might be the most unfun thing in the game to date. The fun gets sucked right out. Pretty much ensures that I'll be doing everything except for current raids, expert roulettes, and trial roulettes as Gunbreaker regardless of which one I am officially "maining". *cough both cough*