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  1. #61
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    Rhais's Avatar
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    Sophie Miret-njer
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 85
    Delirium being similar to a warrior ability is just a continuation of what was started in SB though, in SB dark was given a blood guage, with a single target high potency attack on the gcd and an AoE attack on the gcd to use with the guage. Sounds pretty similar to another job doesn't it? TBN was just the equivelent to IB or sheltron.
    Much of what I enjoyed in HW was already removed in SB and was replaced with mechanically inferior versions (like DA and MP management) if retained at all, and most of the new stuff it gained was already making it similar to certain other jobs. I may not like the direction SE chose to take DRK, but I would have to agree with RyuDragnier, the ShB iteration feels better than SB DRK.
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    Last edited by Rhais; 08-04-2019 at 08:19 AM.

  2. #62
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    Nedkel's Avatar
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 74
    They should change delirium, from giving infinite blood gauge to infinite mp for 10 seconds, that would be more appealing. Or at least make the bloodspiller and quietus generate 600 mp.
    This skill feels so much not needed in drk kit, it practically doesnt give a lot.
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  3. #63
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    DRKoftheAzure's Avatar
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    Gridania and Ul'dah (because Ishgard not allowed to be starting city-state :c)
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    Character
    Strea Leonhart
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    The absolute last thing DRK needs is MORE aoe damage abilities.
    And that breaks tank balance how...?
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  4. #64
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    Starkbeaumont's Avatar
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    Character
    Raegen Beaumont
    World
    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    nobody should be forced to leave the job they love bcs SE decide to R.I.P his gameplay and identity instead of do what they should, improve it.
    playing a different tank is the only thing you should do to show SE your dislike. they run statistics on everything. and if the overall number of tank players stays consistent while the number of drk players goes down SE will know something is off and might actually do something.

    and no they don't have to improve the job when it is fine. always keep in mind those that are satisfied now will probably not be happy after changes and take your spot on the forums while you think drk is fine.
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  5. #65
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    And that breaks tank balance how...?
    It doesn't.

    But it has a line, two pbaoes, a targeted aoe, and a ground aoe.

    Oh and Quietus, another pbaoe.
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  6. #66
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    shao32's Avatar
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont View Post
    playing a different tank is the only thing you should do to show SE your dislike. they run statistics on everything. and if the overall number of tank players stays consistent while the number of drk players goes down SE will know something is off and might actually do something.

    and no they don't have to improve the job when it is fine. always keep in mind those that are satisfied now will probably not be happy after changes and take your spot on the forums while you think drk is fine.
    im already playing GNB bcs all of this but i don't want to play GNB i wanna play DRK no a WAR copy, you argument have zero logic since this is similar to BRD on HW when all his gameplay become casting his attacks, ppl still play the job and ppl complaing that wasn't what they want despite the job doing his job properly, this is not a question if the job can or can't archive the performance they are supose to do, is about how they do this performance, and despite we ask to SE to take a aproach to HW version of the job you know the original to make everyone happy and enjoy all the job we love they just do whatever they want and now the DRK comunity is more fragmented that it was in SB bcs his stupid and braindead gameplay desing.

    other thing just playing another job don't do anything bcs that can mean i just like GNB or whatever other job more and thats all, if you are disgusted with something you havge to complaing and be loud about it, DRK need a change and stop SE for making the tanks all the same.
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  7. #67
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    RadicalPesto's Avatar
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    Character
    Pesto Lady
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    more mp and shorter cooldowns on salted earth/abyssal drain/carve and spit please, i can deal with a one combo class if i can weave things between the combo. new machinist is a pretty extreme example of how a class with a single combo can be fun if given enough things to do outside that combo. dark knight could take some hints from it, but obviously without machinist's extremely high apm.
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  8. #68
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    InfiniDragon's Avatar
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    Character
    Blake Farrence
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    After getting more time in with DRK, there's only a few things I need and I'm good. Make Abyssal 30 seconds and 2 charges so it kinda matches up to Equilibrium in single target, make Salted Earth not suck (however you want to do this lol), TBN increase to 10 seconds to make it break on trash a bit more reliably and a tiny bit more potency.

    They don't feel like a WAR at all despite the unga window with Delirium, I'm leveling my WAR now and that is not a thing. People need to stop thinking this is a thing.
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  9. #69
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by InfiniDragon View Post
    They don't feel like a WAR at all despite the unga window with Delirium, I'm leveling my WAR now and that is not a thing. People need to stop thinking this is a thing.
    i yesterday end leveling WAR to lvl 80 and i highly dissagre, GCD pace of both jobs it's almost the same while DRK have a feeling of being 1 or 2 expansions behind thanks to the lack of a second combo compared to his counterparts, the biggest diferences betwen WAR and DRK are infuriate mechanic that bring WAR some nice divertity on his GCD manipulation while DRK is stuck in a eternal 1-2-3 ocasional 4 for all eternity and since the edge and MP resource generation no longer play a proper role right now in his personal mechanics due taking a dam eternity gathering resources all the focus of the job ends at the 1-2-3-o4 with feels like a basic HW WAR rotation when they spend all day spaming eye with the ocasional fell cleave until unga bunga with in my personal opinion is pretty lame when the job use to be a lot of fun specially on HW.
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  10. #70
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    Hierro's Avatar
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    Character
    Ziero Rehw-bidit
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    My biggest complaint about DRK, aside from the obvious "This isn't the fast and speedy DRK I loved," is it plays similar to WAR but in a much more fastidious kind of way. Simply put, there's so much more to keep track of on DRK than there is on WAR. I personally feel a little overwhelmed by having to keep track of my gauge, one of several cooldowns becoming available, along with all of DRK's little quirks.

    Sure, defensively DRK has its own unique flavor and reasons to use, but offensively i just keep thinking about how much less of a pain it'd be to execute if I was on WAR.
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