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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    If you think that's true, you objectively don't understand what scarcity is. Time is a finite resource that must be spent to generate these materials. It guarantees scarcity is always in play.
    That's only really in play if I have to do it all myself. But there are tens of thousands of players per server doing it all the time producing these things.

    The only time supply realistically dries up is when a new expansion is released and people stop doing the previous expansion's content. For instance Uznair materials are going up in price now because people aren't doing it so the supply is drying up. But during the course of an expansion, supply is effectively unlimited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    That's only really in play if I have to do it all myself. But there are tens of thousands of players per server doing it all the time producing these things.

    The only time supply realistically dries up is when a new expansion is released and people stop doing the previous expansion's content. For instance Uznair materials are going up in price now because people aren't doing it so the supply is drying up. But during the course of an expansion, supply is effectively unlimited.
    And each of those players is spending part of their limited time. You then spend money to purchase the fruits of their time.

    Probably go retake your econ 101 course. The concepts don't seem to have really sunk in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    And each of those players is spending part of their limited time. You then spend money to purchase the fruits of their time.

    Probably go retake your econ 101 course. The concepts don't seem to have really sunk in.
    Econ 101 also states increased competition is good for the market, but you seem to really hate that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Econ 101 also states increased competition is good for the market, but you seem to really hate that one.
    The environment in an MMO is fundamentally different. Increased competition in the real world is good because it promotes innovation, but in the game we're all limited to producing identical goods in a more or less identical fashion. Innovation isn't possible. Competition is good, but only to a certain extent. I want competition in markets for which I am a buyer and I want a monopoly for markets in which I am a seller. Of course, that's not all that unlike the real world either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    Probably go retake your econ 101 course. The concepts don't seem to have really sunk in.
    I just don't agree with your conclusion. That's not the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    I just don't agree with your conclusion. That's not the same thing.
    Your agreement really isn't a factor. This is an objective matter on which you happen to be wrong.
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    The only left reason for the existens of gils in this game is to take a shortcuts. speed up things by buy stuff from other player. stuff you dont want to investigate time in
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    Your agreement really isn't a factor. This is an objective matter on which you happen to be wrong.
    I don't think it is but we obviously aren't going to see eye to eye on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    I don't think it is but we obviously aren't going to see eye to eye on this.
    Obviously. Only one of us has any idea what they're talking about and the other refuses to listen.
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    I got around to trying this tonight. I popped a food to get the 60 surplus CP and pushed out 35 100% recipes (I don't macro - it might be possible to push more than 35 in half an hour) and got a reuse proc rate of 4 from 35.


    I'm not sure what secret goop they use to determine when it works but 4 of 35 seems anything but OP to me.
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    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/1445972/

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