Summoner Early Post-Launch Feedback at level 80

[Taranok]

Also less stuff makes balancing harder. Also Also its easier to simply revert the changes the arguement of this is bad, lets delete it and since we started lets rework the whole class especially since youve already said that the class is not to your taste and even more so when the job functioned nearly perfect before those changes and all it needed was polish goes to say how forcefully youre trying to shoehorn a rework. Youre not making an arguement youre throwing a fit of how much you disliked summoner and how you still do. Youre literally playing with the pain those Who liked it feel.

I suppose this means Black Mage is the hardest class in the game to balance because its rotation is the smallest in terms of unique actions per minute. Oh, wait, it's the opposite of that.

[HeulGDarian]

I suppose this means Black Mage is the hardest class in the game to balance because its rotation is the smallest in terms of unique actions per minute. Oh, wait, it's the opposite of that.

W8 actually. You got a point there i actually phrased it wrong let me rephrase it . a job that has less options to achieve something makes it hard for that something to be balanced. ill take the example you had given to remove the dots and add them to ruin and also make ruin instant . With that change beside the utility lost I've stated means that changes to it would have more of an impact . let's say you want to nerf 10% gcd damage let's say that your gcd is 40% and the ruin does 300 . Your only choice is nerfing ruin to be 225 potency . let's say we have 2 actions. now we can do 10 different nerfs to achieve this status . with 3 actions i need to refresh my advance calculus to give you the number . Ofc this isn't all there is in balancing but it's something to consider.