Alliance Roulette problem

[Exitos]

Normally i didnt do it, but the last few days i actuelle resorted to the ilvl cheese because people are just too stupid for normal content.... I dont have 6+ hours a day to do my rouletts and even if, i dont want to waste that much time on it.

Just 2 days ago i needed 2+ hours for trials because randoms where too bad for Lakshmi (20 min waiting in queue, 4 wipes, abondon), then got titania (again 20 min queue, 5-6 wipes, abondon), after that (20 more min in queue) got susano and... (how could it be any other way?) 3 wipes abondon... At last i got another titania run where people where patient enought to sit through 5 wipes to finally get my trials roulett... After all that fun i got orbonne and just closed the game. Came home at 5:30 pm and started aliance roulett at 10:30 pm without doing anything else the whole evening, so orbonne was too much for me at that moment, since then i cheese my ilvl...

[Qeilos]

So since I never unlocked Heavenswards Alliance, and have only unlocked the first step of Stormbloods what im hearing is...just leave them locked. Then even if SE ever implements some kind of anticheese it has basically no effect on me anyway lol.

[Kaethra]

This. Orbonne can easily take twice as long as LotA. That would be fine if it gave twice as much exp or twice as many tomes, but it doesn't. What's the incentive to risk a 45 minute Orbonne or Dun Scaith when you could do a 20 minute CT for the same reward?

Sounds like the best idea is to remove the reward for both. Makes them equal. Means the only players who want to do the content, are doing the content.

No more cheesing the roulette, no more arguing about xp spent. No more chances of getting stuck in content you don't want to do. Its a win-win solution. Remove Alliance and MSQ roulette. Newbies that get stuck on those respective questlines can use PF and get friends, or FCs to help. Or buy the runs. I mean I'm not in a FC and I get about a dozen invites a day. Newbies likely get the same thing. They can make having the FC run them through these dungeons as condition to joining them. I mean judging by the volume of invites I get, they need people enough to warrant doing that.

But yeah, that solves every issue brought up:

No ilvl scaling shenanigans.
No Orbonne Monastery 45+ minute runs.
No Freeloaders pitching for LotA.
No Waiting in cutscenes
No Dragging newbies through packs of mobs.

While the only downside is newbies have to make friends to progress in a few quests. I don't see the bad part about that.

Roulette has to go. Lets make it happen.

[Eldevern]

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And more FC dramas as result

Joke apart, you are wrong : a little FC will never be able to solve the queue problem for Alliance clear, the PF neither. That's why they added the alliance roulette, even with a CT linkshell it was rather hard to clear the content until they make CT usefull for relic light.

[Fynlar]

So since I never unlocked Heavenswards Alliance, and have only unlocked the first step of Stormbloods what im hearing is...just leave them locked. Then even if SE ever implements some kind of anticheese it has basically no effect on me anyway lol.

They're totally worth doing once. Weeping City and all of the SB raids have neat aesthetics.

But if you want to avoid doing them again in the future, there's always the item level cheese... unless SE eventually does decide to do something about it, anyway. However, I imagine that whatever they end up doing will involve requiring you to have all the dungeons for your particular level unlocked (as well as sufficient gear to actually enter all of them), meaning that simply avoiding unlocking the dungeons may not help you get around whatever measures they implement.

[Sathona]

i lower my ilvl cause i cant stand Void Ark tiers,the whole background etc makes me feel like i torture myself when i run it, not to mention i cant stand 500x wipes against Thunder Lord Cid.
Just want my roulette exp and get it over with~

[Seraphor]

So since I never unlocked Heavenswards Alliance, and have only unlocked the first step of Stormbloods what im hearing is...just leave them locked. Then even if SE ever implements some kind of anticheese it has basically no effect on me anyway lol.

If you don't want to play the game's content, then yeah, don't unlock any of it.
This goes for Trials, Raids, and even MSQ.

Roulette has to go. Lets make it happen.

This is ridiculous. if you don't like the roulettes, don't run them, you are not forced to.
You don't solve the issue a piece of content has by removing the content.

[Tlachtga]

The hypocrisy of some people in this forum is amazing.

Y'all rail on people using the exploit to skip cutscenes in MSQ roulette to save time, you shoot down people who complain about lazy players making expert roulette take 30mins instead of 15m, but when there's a possibility of an alliance roulette which has a chance of being messy and taking longer than the others, its perfectly justifiable to cheese ilvl to avoid these to save time.

What a joke. Selfish community btw

[van_arn]

The hypocrisy of some people in this forum is amazing.

Y'all rail on people using the exploit to skip cutscenes in MSQ roulette to save time, you shoot down people who complain about lazy players making expert roulette take 30mins instead of 15m, but when there's a possibility of an alliance roulette which has a chance of being messy and taking longer than the others, its perfectly justifiable to cheese ilvl to avoid these to save time.

What a joke. Selfish community btw

I don't blame the playerbase at all. These are just symptoms -- both cutscene skipping and running CT -- of the rewards for specific content being overtuned for the attention required.

Square's fault.

If Square were to lower the rewards and people stopped running this content, again Square's fault for having content people don't want to run.

[Seraphor]

The rewards should scale better with the content.

Perhaps an additional modifier to the current rewards as follows:
ARR Alliance Raids: x0.8
HW Alliance Raids: x1.2
SB Alliance Raids: x1.5