Ninja is weak, like very weak.

[Nedkel]

Its just the aoe department where ninja is really lacking but his single target is fine.

[ReiMakoto]

Its just the aoe department where ninja is really lacking but his single target is fine.

How can you say that when objective data says its behind in single target?

[Nedkel]

How can you say that when objective data says its behind in single target?

You are one of the people who are ignoring the data, which clearly states that ninja is dealing 10-11% less dps than the top best dps job in the game.

Ninja has a damage bonus for a entire raid group every 60 seconds, basically add the entire raid damage into one, multiply it by 0.1 and divide by 6 and you should have a number that you could add to the ninja dps.
Add this up to the total ninja dps and you will see it is on par with dragoon or BLM.

Why are people so ignorant and does not look on the whole picture, eh. Better of memeing about ninja being useless, which is not the case at all. FF logs should consider counting buffs into the dps, it does not show everything

[aiqa]

You are one of the people who are ignoring the data, which clearly states that ninja is dealing 10-11% less dps than the top best dps job in the game.

Ninja has a damage bonus for a entire raid group every 60 seconds, basically add the entire raid damage into one, multiply it by 0.1 and divide by 6 and you should have a number that you could add to the ninja dps.
Add this up to the total ninja dps and you will see it is on par with dragoon or BLM.

Why are people so ignorant and does not look on the whole picture, eh. Better of memeing about ninja being useless, which is not the case at all.

But fflogs already does that for you, no need to calculate it yourself.
You can just look at the rDPS numbers, which already redistribute numbers based on damage buffs (see https://www.fflogs.com/help/rdps).
What you should not do is manually add damage from TA to rDPS, that would be counting TA twice.

So all in all you're making a good point, if TA was twice as strong as it is now ninja would bring the same overall damage to the raid as a black mage.

[Nedkel]

But fflogs already does that for you, no need to calculate it yourself.
You can just look at the rDPS numbers, which already redistribute numbers based on damage buffs (see https://www.fflogs.com/help/rdps).
What you should not do is manually add damage from TA to rDPS, that would be counting TA twice.

So all in all you're making a good point, if TA was twice as strong as it is now ninja would bring the same overall damage to the raid as a black mage.

Oh didnt realise it was already a thing.
So according to it, ninja indeed is underperforming by 10% anyway, so i was wrong, should get another buff.