Please let PS4 parse our dps like pc

[Alucard135]

No it isnt, and where is your proof? and this is a typical response from you.

A parser does help in improvement, but not the kind you think. It only shows you your current damage as a number. Is seeing your damage as a number the only thing you need to get better? And by better I mean going from gray to purple parse. But since you strongly believe that a parser is what will make a player a better player, then do explain how?

As for my proof, I showed you before a video of Yoshi P himself saying that a parser doesn't give players much of an advantage over others. Now show me your proof of the opposite.

[LiteBrite]

A parser does help in improvement, but not the kind you think. It only shows you your current damage as a number. Is seeing your damage as a number the only thing you need to get better? And by better I mean going from gray to purple parse. But since you strongly believe that a parser is what will make a player a better player, then do explain how?

As for my proof, I showed you before a video of Yoshi P himself saying that a parser doesn't give players much of an advantage over others. Now show me your proof of the opposite.

That's not proof... You PC people cry and cry to keep you parser so you can git gud and us console peasants aren't allowed one. And you want to say that is fair? You are always white knighting and this is just common sense. If we don't need one you PC players don't need one. Its a double standard you trying to push.. If i said the water was wet, you argure and it isn't. But that's how you roll

[Alucard135]

That's not proof... You PC people cry and cry to keep you parser so you can git gud and us console peasants aren't allowed one. And you want to say that is fair? You are always white knighting and this is just common sense. If we don't need one you PC players don't need one. Its a double standard you trying to push.. If i said the water was wet, you argure and it isn't. But that's how you roll

1- you have not yet explained how seeing your dps would greatly improve your game play (the way I described) .

2- people are using parsers to measure how high their dps is and try to increase it by reading guides, understanding their class rotation etc. . The parser also allows players to create the logs you see on FF logs that are helping them go that extra mile (not jump from gray to purple or even blue as you might think). And also it keeps record of the players performance that allows others to avoid bad players for high end duties. And if you're aiming for world first clears, which I'm sure you aren't, then the logs help you analyze the fight and what went wrong. And of course we have speed runners.

3- does any of the reasons I mentioned in point 2 apply to you? If it's the first reason, then congratulations the game already provides you an in game personal parser called Stone Sky Sea, which you probably never heard of. And if you don't know, you can Google how to measure exactly your Dps using it. So now what's your excuse now? If you have any other reasons for a parser, then state it.

4- I gave you what the game director said, and you're resorting to "but they said" as your proof. If you don't agree with yoshi P's statement, then provide numbers that show him wrong. Show that Ps4 players are performing badly compared to PC players (since you strongly believe so).

But I'm sure you'll dodge all these points as always.

[NealSnow]

I still feel the savage community has a legit unhealthy obsession with dps numbers. Not to say there aren't poor players like if a BLM is just casting ice over an over, however the raiding community as a whole from savage in my experience need to chill. But who knows, maybe I'm wrong as a casual hardcore player but imho it really isn't that hard to dps a lot... just hit things off cd, and land your combos.

Now more on topic, I'm against all forums of it myself as like with eso the community will just start demanding/threatning people to post screenshots. This isn't a issue a tool can fix, only peoples behavior and mindset.

Though legit parsers would happen before the savage community would ever take responsibility for fostering a negative environment with the mindset of "omfg gotta be doing 100% maximum dps ahhh!"

On the other hand, just because you pay a sub doesn't mean you are excused to play lazily. That's like saying I bought a ticket to Disney land so therefore I'm allowed to pee on the rides.

In short both sides can be stubbern af, stuck in their ways so I'm sure both of the extremes will just love my opinion

[Hezzlocks]

Honestly, if somebody's berating you for numbers...that's probably not somebody you want to associate with, even in savage content.

THAT SAID, the parses themselves do have a place especially in savage content, IMO. Used properly, they help me see what I'm doing wrong (or right) and what I could potentially do better. This might not matter a ton when a fight is on farm, but when you're not clearing (or maybe when you barely cleared and want to ensure you start doing so in the future).

This is exactly why i would love my own personal dps parser. An official one, no less. I don't care about others DPS, knowing others is only useful for comparisons sake and isn't even reliable for that due to uncontrollable factors like rng procs and lucky crit streaks. But my own logs? I could see where exactly I could improve.

I KNOW I don't play 100% efficiently, probably more like 80% efficiently, and I honestly don't care about being perfect in the slightest... but that doesn't mean I don't want to improve myself by a little bit at least. 90% efficiency seems like a comfortable number to be at.

[LiteBrite]

That's true. But he still goes by it. He's been watching world first clears for ultimate and savage on twitch and all of them are using parsers but he never stated against it. It's the same rule for mods and reshade. Since they don't give any advatange for pc users over ps4 players. But you don't talk about them in game.

Yes they do or PC players wouldn't use them. Stop lying...

[Mavrias]

Yes they do or PC players wouldn't use them. Stop lying...

What sort of advantage are you thinking of? Cause the most parsers do, is let you see if gameplay changes (such as rotation adjustments) cause improvement in real time or see whose slacking in your parties directly.

Theres no other advantage.

[Inuk9]

What sort of advantage are you thinking of? Cause the most parsers do, is let you see if gameplay changes (such as rotation adjustments) cause improvement in real time or see whose slacking in your parties directly.

Theres no other advantage.

Maybe he is talking about ACT in general? Like mods telling mechanics like Naels quotes in ultimate just to give an example. That is the only mechanic in the game that I need a call and I hate it.

[Alucard135]

What sort of advantage are you thinking of? Cause the most parsers do, is let you see if gameplay changes (such as rotation adjustments) cause improvement in real time or see whose slacking in your parties directly.

Theres no other advantage.

They want to believe so hard that a parser will make them good. Can't help someone like that not even with a million parsers.

It lets you know your dps numbers, so you can improve said numbers. And people get judged off FFlogs too based off ps4 players numbers, and only the PC players are allowed to break the rules and clearly get advantage over PS4 players, to make their FFlogs look good by using a parser. This double standard the PC players in this thread are to push is pathetic... PC players saying we deserve one and ps4 players don't need one is pretty selfish.

You can see your numbers using SSS. Why aren't you doing so? I used that a lot of the times. :thinking:

[LiteBrite]

What sort of advantage are you thinking of? Cause the most parsers do, is let you see if gameplay changes (such as rotation adjustments) cause improvement in real time or see whose slacking in your parties directly.

Theres no other advantage.

It lets you know your dps numbers, so you can improve said numbers. And people get judged off FFlogs too based off ps4 players numbers, and only the PC players are allowed to break the rules and clearly get advantage over PS4 players, to make their FFlogs look good by using a parser. This double standard the PC players in this thread are to push is pathetic... PC players saying we deserve one and ps4 players don't need one is pretty selfish.