Please let PS4 parse our dps like pc

[kidalutz]

Its third party software Square Enix does not support or Endorse Parsing in general so this entire request is moot.

FFLogs is not supported nor endorsed by Square Enix nor it's Subsidary Companies.

[Hash_Browns]

It lets you know your dps numbers, so you can improve said numbers. And people get judged off FFlogs too based off ps4 players numbers, and only the PC players are allowed to break the rules and clearly get advantage over PS4 players, to make their FFlogs look good by using a parser. This double standard the PC players in this thread are to push is pathetic... PC players saying we deserve one and ps4 players don't need one is pretty selfish.

Parsers don't give an advantage.

Parsers let you see if you have improved.
They don't help you improve.

You have to improve yourself still.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

Having read halfway through this thread, all I can say is, the easiest and most fair (and least desirable) way that SE could address this issue would be to no longer have combat information reported in a log file.

No combat data in logs, can’t parse those logs for combat statistics. Can’t parse for combat statistics cannot hold someone’s performance against them.

No one wants that. But that would be the most fair thing to do that SE has not already said it would not do.

And for those who say that FFLogs is a third party website that SE does not support, all I can say is having logs report combat data IS support for a parsing program or website. FFLogs can only exist because SE allows it to, by having combat data be logged.

[HWalsh]

To addendum the above:

Holy Spirit is your lead off, because it has a cast time, which doesn't exist as you're the first one to make an attack.

Fortification is your basic damage reduction ability and is instant cast.

Fight or Flight is an instant cast that ups your damage.

Spirits Within is an instant cast that deals single target damage.

Prominence is an instant cast that deals AoE damage.

Fast/Riot/Goring - The basic combo that places a 10 second DOT on the target. This combo starts at second 0 and takes 5 seconds to complete.

Fast/Riot/Royal Authority is the second combo and starts at a 2.5 second position after Goring Blade. This completes at 7.5 seconds after the application of the Goring Blade.

You recycle into Fast/Riot/Goring with a 2.5 second interval between when the Goring DoT applies giving you maximum DoT spread while taking advantage of the heavier Royal Authority.

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You do NOT need a parser to learn that. You can just read the abilities.

[24spencer]

I know if I'm not doing it right as I pay attention to what I'm doing. The parser isn't going to tell me:

"Oops, in minute 3 of the fight, one time you hit 1, 2, 4 instead of 1, 2, 3." I'm well aware of doing that because my character spun and did an AoE when I meant to do a single target attack.

I mean it literally will tell you that if you plug the log into xivanalysis but go off i guess

[Deithwen]

Form? Seriously? That's the rotation I came up with, without a parser, that optimizes my output based on simple math.

I know if I'm not doing it right as I pay attention to what I'm doing. The parser isn't going to tell me:

"Oops, in minute 3 of the fight, one time you hit 1, 2, 4 instead of 1, 2, 3." I'm well aware of doing that because my character spun and did an AoE when I meant to do a single target attack.

Parsers. Are. A. Security. Blanket.

Nothing more.

You do NOT need them. They make checking others to make sure they're using more optimized rotations, but they don't help you at all, because you would need to figure out the rotation (by reading) and again, you KNOW if you're doing it right or not.

Nobody *needs* a parser to get better.

And yet, a parser is the only tool that lets you know exactly how you perform.
Without this data, you cannot know for sure.

The parser will actually tell you how you perform compared to others, and you can see if you're lacking dps, or doing something wrong.
With the data a parser provides, one can have a precise idea on how to improve, fflogs helping a lot for that.

Rotation itself is not the only thing that determines DPS.
OffGCDs usage and optimizations do, uptime does, etc and to know this, you need parsers.

You can say all you want, but until you've actually parsed yourself in endgame content, and have an accurate measure of your performance, it would be better not to say anything regarding how parsers are useful.

[Granyala]

The parser isn't going to tell me:
"Oops, in minute 3 of the fight, one time you hit 1, 2, 4 instead of 1, 2, 3." I'm well aware of doing that because my character spun and did an AoE when I meant to do a single target attack.

That's precisely what they do tell you and I was explicitly referring to small mistakes you don't readily notice in a busy encounter.

But I give up, apparently you are all Gods among men. I, as a mere incompetent mortal, take my hat and bow to your omnipotence.

[Aomine1992]

Lawd this went for one person asking for a PERSONAL parser for themselves to a “we should have public parsers” to a “parsers are so toxic” you are ruining this persons request with all your BS personal sentiments which has nothing to do with seeing your own dps.

If seeing your own bad dps makes you not want parsers then why are you even trying to do savage in the first place. I am pro parser but not public parser just a personal one cause some of you don’t know how to act now with a quote on quote secret parser so a public one would make the stupidity acceptable and just ruin it for the ones using the tool properly.

[Alucard135]

I mean it literally will tell you that if you plug the log into xivanalysis but go off i guess

All these tools rely on FFlogs to function though. So if we assumed hypothetically that SE added an official in gamer live personal parser, if no one made any tools to integrate its data with these websites, then it goes back to just being numbers you see. They can't improve your gameplay but can tell you if you're doing good or bad on a personal level only. And that's no different than measuring it using SSS.

I do agree that the tools provided by FFlogs and XIVanalysis are helpful in improvement. But everyone already has access to them, be it a PS4 player or a PC player. You just need someone that logs the fights. And you don't even need to find someone to ask them to do so. I've pugged all raid tiers in SB and my logs are being uploaded all the time by others without having to ask for that.

Some of those that want parsers don't even know about these other tools and think that they will improve drastically just by seeing their numbers, which won't happen of course.

[Hammerhorn]

As long as there are enrage timers Dps meters will server a purpose. Acting like something that meters you is a bad thing is like say we shouldn’t have speedometers in your car. Being offended that you cannot produce X number of dps is a sign of insecurity. Refusing to better your Dps in a end game raid team only brings your team down. If it’s a inability move on the world doesn’t spin around you become better or realize your limitations and except them. I’ve used Dps meters almost 20 yrs on different games it’s a tool to shape better players, FF14 decision not to implement one is to pacify the insecure majority and their willingness to turn a blind eye to PC players using parsers is to pacify the raid community. They are neutral for the sub money full stop.