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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
    And this is why AST is the way it is.
    Stop saying this, PLEASE.
    No, YOU might have been but a lot of us didn't. Stop speaking for all of us.
    Thanks to people megaphoning this we're stuck with this crappy Balance Bot
    for possibly 2 years. Thanks a lot.
    As opposed to the past 4 years, when you were stuck with a crappy Balance bot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    As opposed to the past 4 years, when you were stuck with a crappy Balance bot.
    Said "crappy balance bot" was what got me into healing because the class was fun and the card system thought provoking outside of the balance fishing. It is no surprise that the AST population has all but died off and people exclude it from their parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post
    Said "crappy balance bot" was what got me into healing because the class was fun and the card system thought provoking outside of the balance fishing. It is no surprise that the AST population has all but died off and people exclude it from their parties.
    Except as you got further along Ast, you began to see that the 'thought provoking' card system stopped as you became more proficient. Spire was pointless, Bole was never actually needed, almost everyone disliked having Arrow, Spear had to be reworked and retuned to keep from being RR bait, and Ewer's usages hinged almost entirely on !@#% hitting the fan. Hope you RNG'd it.

    Don't misunderstand me, I don't much care for the cards now either, but throwing the ole rose colored goggles on doesn't help anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Except as you got further along Ast, you began to see that the 'thought provoking' card system stopped as you became more proficient. Spire was pointless, Bole was never actually needed, almost everyone disliked having Arrow, Spear had to be reworked and retuned to keep from being RR bait, and Ewer's usages hinged almost entirely on !@#% hitting the fan. Hope you RNG'd it.

    Don't misunderstand me, I don't much care for the cards now either, but throwing the ole rose colored goggles on doesn't help anyone.
    Spire was in need of a rework, pretty much everyone agreed with that. Bole was very useful for me in the dungeons and 24 man raids which was the main content I did. BLMs and SAMs loved getting Arrows tosses on them. Spear was an odd one that realistically needed a mechanic fix to make it so that when the buff was on someone it sped up existing cooldowns, not just cooldowns used when it was active. The rework into it handing out crit was an ok alternative though it did not help me since I used the old spear to help with cooldowns like Lightspeed, just meant I was throwing spears on BRDs and MNKs primarily instead. Ewer was basically an extra LD and because of that it was helpful, especially in the main content I did where lets be honest... shit hit the fan a lot.

    And this is not rose colored goggles talking either. I was working on getting back into the groove for healing this expansion after a long break until I read the changes and lost all drive. Things turned out as bad as I expected and the class became a pain to level so I just tried to level it in short spurts. The AoE healing feels a bit better now, but not the wall to wall tank pull healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Except as you got further along Ast, you began to see that the 'thought provoking' card system stopped as you became more proficient. Spire was pointless, Bole was never actually needed, almost everyone disliked having Arrow, Spear had to be reworked and retuned to keep from being RR bait, and Ewer's usages hinged almost entirely on !@#% hitting the fan. Hope you RNG'd it.

    Don't misunderstand me, I don't much care for the cards now either, but throwing the ole rose colored goggles on doesn't help anyone.
    bole not being needed would be due to encounter design, arrow was unliked mostly because of tp burn, or short dps windows. But really, most of the stuff you are complaining about is high end stuff, where, even with your beefs, Astro was still an in demand Savage healer. Now it is not, and its less entertaining for most people. Sounds like a very bad trade off in every way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    As opposed to the past 4 years, when you were stuck with a crappy Balance bot.
    Except I wasn't. Seems to be posts like this here.
    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    Yes, because only who can play AST at savage level and squeeze every bit of efficience from the job, has the right to talk about the job, has the right to tell SE how the job must be made.
    And guess what? Not gonna throw numbers from my bottomside, but a big portion of people...don't raid.
    And those who don't have a say were ignored I guess. I don't know SE's way of thinking but it ain't it.
    So listening to the minority here, pretty much killed AST's identity.
    I'm really just about to say remove Balance all together.
    It's obviously an issue with it because these same old arguments keep popping up.

    EDIT: And before someone tells me "Well now you fish for seals" I really don't.
    It's not fun. I don't give a rat's butt how much DPS you get from me. You get what you get.
    Not gonna sit here and play "Go Balance +++" forever to maximize the DPS for people and trying to heal. Not happening.
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    Last edited by Mikhaill; 07-31-2019 at 09:08 AM.