They should just delete AST

[Mortex]

The entire Astro playstyle now is of you have 3 seals you just convert every single card into small arcana and if you miss one seal you fish for 2 out of 6 cards. It’s the same fricking system we had then without individuality at all. Back then you had difference cards and buffs. Now it’s just draw don’t even look at the card when you have 3 seals just convert and then the same 2 color will tell you if it is meele or range. No thinking no flexibility and just because you are forced to do 3 ogcd just to throw the fricking card doesn’t make it better. So in short it sucks and you are forced to work 110% every run to even come close to whm dps or even healing. Just the fact that almost every progress group takes whm over Astro because it heals more and deals more dmg for less the effort should tell you that even astro mains hate these changes.

[Mortex]

Arrow is detrimental to some jobs, such as Ninja and Monk, and barely a bonus to some others. You definitely should not have been Expanding it unless you didn't have an Ninja or a Monk, and even then it wouldn't be nearly as good as a Spear or Balance.

If you need an AoE Bole, you're not playing healer very well. You can't rely on RNG for essential mitigation skills.
This is why AST was a balancing nightmare, it had RNG dps and RNG healer skills, which you can’t balance against the other healers.

And yet despite that fact it whas still the best dmg % card in comparison to balance and I can even give you the math

[Mortex]

Here the math. Expanded balance is straight up 5% extra dps.
Expanded arrow is 5% reduced GCDs and auto-attacks, which translates to 1/0.95 = 5.3% extra dps in regards to GCDs and auto-attacks only.
Expanded spear is 5% extra crit rate. Assuming the worst case scenario at 364 base crit, we're comparing (1*0.95+1.4*0.05) to (1*0.9 + 1.4*0.1), which is 1.96% increased damage on average. However, spear only lasts 20 seconds. So to compare them, spear (1.96%*20 = 39.2) is worth less than a third of a balance (5%*30 = 150). Again, this is only if everyone in your party has no crit bonuses. With higher crit, the better spear becomes.

[Seraphor]

Expanded arrow is 5% reduced GCDs and auto-attacks, which translates to 1/0.95 = 5.3% extra dps in regards to GCDs and auto-attacks only.

Entirely theoretical, and only applies when protracted over a long period of time.
In a 30s window you’ll have about 14 GCD’s max, or 12 if you haven’t stacked any Speed materia.
That’s not enough time to reap the benefits of a 5% increased speed buff. Your 13th/15th GCD at the end of that 30s window will come a second or two quicker, and not even a whole GCD quicker. That’s it. You’d need to be able to fit 20 GCD’s into that window to gain one whole extra GCD, and only Ninja could do that, but that would cause clipping and therefore cancel out all benefit of it.

If it was a permanent buff throughout a fight it would make a difference.

[Mortex]

That whas with the 20 sec crit after that it got better. And arrow gets further ahead when enhanced with 2,6 % more dmg. But it’s always the same problem it’s make you faster so you may clip it with ability windows or buff timing etc.

[Mortex]

And in case you had a blm/ Sam or mnk in ur party enhance arrow whas a massive dmg increase

[Mortex]

So old enhanced arrow had a dps increase with 12,6 % dmg for double the time we do have now. Same with divenation and single target cards. The only last 15 secs that’s nothing even the old single target cards had 10 and lasted 30 seconds

[Mortex]

Entirely theoretical, and only applies when protracted over a long period of time.
In a 30s window you’ll have about 14 GCD’s max, or 12 if you haven’t stacked any Speed materia.
That’s not enough time to reap the benefits of a 5% increased speed buff. Your 13th/15th GCD at the end of that 30s window will come a second or two quicker, and not even a whole GCD quicker. That’s it. You’d need to be able to fit 20 GCD’s into that window to gain one whole extra GCD, and only Ninja could do that, but that would cause clipping and therefore cancel out all benefit of it.

If it was a permanent buff throughout a fight it would make a difference.

That’s the math for every single aoe arrow. Other people even confirmed it. You either don’t want to believe math for that. I can even give you even the thread that has the math.

[Seraphor]

That’s the math for every single aoe arrow. Other people even confirmed it. You either don’t want to believe math for that. I can even give you even the thread that has the math.

Yes, I get the math, but you don't get the execution of it.
You could increase my speed by 50%, but that’s useless if I clip all my GCDs and therefore don’t reap any benefits from it. Then that theoretical, mathematically proven 50% damage buff would amount to a 0% damage buff in practice.

This is why AST cards were all just flavour.
You see it as maths and percentages, but the DPS who you're putting these cards onto are the ones who feel the effects, not you, and they don't work for them.

[Mortex]

Yes, I get the math, but you don't get the execution of it.
You could increase my speed by 50%, but that’s useless if I clip all my GCDs and therefore don’t reap any benefits from it. Then that theoretical, mathematically proven 50% damage buff would amount to a 0% damage buff in practice.

This is why AST cards were all just flavour.
You see it as maths and percentages, but the DPS who you're putting these cards onto are the ones who feel the effects, not you, and they don't work for them.

Old aoe Cards did exactly that.