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  1. #1
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    Laur1x's Avatar
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    Ryomou Shimei
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    Faerie
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    Samurai Lv 80

    RIP Ninja - 5.05

    "Gust Slash Combo potency increased from 250 to 300."

    That's the one and only change. Feel free to discuss whether you agree with this or not, I'm sure you guys have seen me avidly posting about this job for weeks here, but that's a wrap for me and NIN.

    Really unfortunate decision by SE.
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I'm...not sure how they thought this was a reasonable buff after seeing how loaded the MNK/SAM changes were by comparison.

    I think I'm just going to switch to MCH now honestly.
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    Laur1x's Avatar
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    Ryomou Shimei
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I'm...not sure how they thought this was a reasonable buff after seeing how loaded the MNK/SAM changes were by comparison.

    I think I'm just going to switch to MCH now honestly.
    Yeah, I got SAM and NIN to i444 and did Eden both weeks and saved up 5 pieces to redeem on whichever seemed to get better balance. I'm a NIN main at heart, but after seeing that I'm beyond frustrated and just going to bench it for Shadowbringers until they re-work the job next expansion.
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I don't think the job needs a rework, it just needs better sustained DPS.

    Potency buffs of this nature for all of their combo moves would've been more reasonable
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    Arilaya Syldove
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    Brynhildr
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I don't think the job needs a rework, it just needs better sustained DPS.

    Potency buffs of this nature for all of their combo moves would've been more reasonable
    If a job's highest DPS rotation ever mandates that you weave so many oGCDs that you have to clip, then the class needs help. NIN, afaik, is in this boat. SMN is also in the boat, kinda, but it has other, far bigger issues hurting it than clipping GCDs.
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    Fester Blight
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    Behemoth
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    Rogue Lv 80
    Yep, these were pretty lazy changes to most of the classes to say the least.

    Now I'll give up on the ninja that I just leveled to 80 because it's impossible to properly play the class at 140 ping :/
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Ninja is getting punished hard for having trick attack.
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    Ryomou Shimei
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I don't think the job needs a rework, it just needs better sustained DPS.

    Potency buffs of this nature for all of their combo moves would've been more reasonable
    Personally I just think it needs a lot of changes, which is why I choose to say "rework".

    I think Bunshin is a problem, Ninki capping at 100 and all abilities being 80 etc, Meisui wasn't innovative more than a nuisance, loss of dripping blades and not correctly adjusting our combo potencies, Fuma being useless, double-clipping still exists, Mudra lag still exists, too many oGCD's, TA still existing and balancing an entire job around one ability, etc.

    It's fine though, I'm done stressing over it. Going to have fun on SAM and level MCH next to alt. This class isn't going to be concern for me anytime in the near future. I'm sure it'll get more adjustments in time.
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    Arlizz Teirez
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    Jenova
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    Monk Lv 90
    I'm no main NiN but I think NiN's Rotation is kinda smooth as it is.
    It's the self-dps potency that need to be buffed,I think.
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    Arilaya Syldove
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    Brynhildr
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nezia View Post
    Yep, these were pretty lazy changes to most of the classes to say the least.

    Now I'll give up on the ninja that I just leveled to 80 because it's impossible to properly play the class at 140 ping :/
    We were always going to get quick, lazy changes. It's just frustrating when a class like Summoner, that has massive, glaring, flow issues, doesn't get anything that it actually needs, and just gets a minor QoL improvement that does nothing to fix the problems the job has, meanwhile AST gets some rather huge changes to a ton of abilities.

    I imagine this just means they might have a stronger change planned for later, but until then the class is going to suck.
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