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    Quote Originally Posted by dangadget View Post
    But it isn't a job, it's a game.
    To continue your analogy, if you were stuck in an unpleasant job, and you have all of the means and the capabilities to get a better one, then why stay in the crappy job and continue to bitch about it?
    You obviously have made a judgement that the crap that you go through at said crappy job is "worth it"
    I knew someone would try this.
    It doesn't matter if it's a job or not. You don't lose the privilege to complain about something just because you participate in it. In fact, the people who do participate are almost always the most qualified to complain, since they're most likely to know what the problems are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    I knew someone would try this.
    It doesn't matter if it's a job or not. You don't lose the privilege to complain about something just because you participate in it. In fact, the people who do participate are almost always the most qualified to complain, since they're most likely to know what the problems are.
    Absolutely correct, you sure do have the right to complain no matter what, just as everyone else has the right to ignore or discount said complaints if they are baseless
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sei_Konsetsu View Post
    This is cool and all, but the problem isn't the MSQ itself, even if people wont admit it. Its the rewards in that MSQ that people want. I would bet my left nut that if there was two MSQs, one with the inflated rewards and the other with the base EXP it original gave, that the one with the less EXP would never get used and people would be right back here complaining how its not fair and how that the other MSQ with cut scenes is almost forced with how much EXP it gives.
    I'm seeing the opposite to be true. Before the change I always saw people in my FC and LS making groups for MSQ roulette. Now, I'm more likely to see people saying they don't run it because of the unskippable CS. I might see someone making a group for MSQ roulette once a week, whereas before I would see several a day.

    I know in this thread there's been numerous posts from people saying they're cool with the lesser rewards if it means being able to skip the CS. They usually get ignored in favor of belittling people asking for the CS to be skippable again.

    Quote Originally Posted by dangadget View Post
    Absolutely correct, you sure do have the right to complain no matter what, just as everyone else has the right to ignore or discount said complaints if they are baseless
    I tend to ignore and discount people who think Person A's opinion is worth less just because they choose to do something due to its efficiency even though Person A sees and voices the flaws of the activity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    I complain about work and paying bills, but I still have to do them. Just because you do something doesn't mean you're not allowed to complain about it. Especially when it's so painfully obvious that there are better ways it should have been done.
    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    I knew someone would try this.
    It doesn't matter if it's a job or not. You don't lose the privilege to complain about something just because you participate in it. In fact, the people who do participate are almost always the most qualified to complain, since they're most likely to know what the problems are.
    Playing a game and Working are not even addressing the same needs. You play a game for entertainment and you work for survival: Survival is not a choice (but the way you do it is).

    Your analogy is so bad, I don't understand how you fail to see how the two don't compare. You are forced to pay your bills because you have consumed the product or the service tied to that bill and you work because you need money for those bills. Explain to me how playing a game and doing the MSQ Roulette even compare to that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidalutz View Post
    and the complaints will get ignored because again you subject yourself to them but comparing something optional to something that has to be done or you get thrown in jail is a bad analogy
    Quote Originally Posted by Ardox View Post
    Playing a game and Working are not even addressing the same needs. You play a game for entertainment and you work for survival: Survival is not a choice (but the way you do it is).

    Your analogy is so bad, I don't understand how you fail to see how the two don't compare. You are forced to pay your bills because you have consumed the product or the service tied to that bill and you work because you need money for those bills. Explain to me how playing a game and doing the MSQ Roulette even compare to that?
    The point remains the same. But why address the point when you can attack me for using a bad analogy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    The point remains the same. But why address the point when you can attack me for using a bad analogy?
    And what exactly is the point that you're trying to make? That you fail to comprehend that as long as you keep doing the OPTIONAL CONTENT that all thats going to be seen is numbers and they're going to keep the system that you keep complaining about around longer?
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