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  1. #61
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Fisher Lv 90
    A graphic update would be pretty cool, I like the game as is enough that if they were like "this or that" I'd probably pick that but these things don't always have to be false dilemmas. Obviously still costs money though lol, but if it's something they can do then that'd be awesome. Like for example they may have someone have "you need to finish the graphics for the new trial, and when you're done with that work on updating old armor" and the guy gets to put in 4 hours before they get new instructions and so over the course of many years it becomes "I finished updating old armor".

    So.. would be cool but I give it low priority. Some random would be nice:
    • Texture updates on the more pixel obvious items (like some armors and hairs)
    • Model improvments to characters (smoother body parts, our new race models for example appear smoother than our old races)
    • Better AA (if possible..)
    • 3d Water (most water in game is 2d, SE makes it work and look good but water is still unusually flat in most places lol)
    • Foliage physics (GW2 and WoW have it, it's entirely pointless but super cool to notice occasionally haha- would probably help with the car looking proper in high plant areas though)
    • Hair/Gear physics (in such a way to also promote avoiding clipping, seems rather difficult and nearly impossible but certainly "would be cool" )

    Something I've been wondering, and definitely way out of my wheel house so it's just "wondering", is if they could use the sort of deep learning AI like FFIX Moguri Mod and the FFVII graphic overhaul used to greatly smooth out the pixels from background images. In this way maybe it becomes more reasonable? Also maybe can sell classic FF7 bundled with FF7 Remake, with the improved graphics :3.
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  2. #62
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    Arrhin Terremiaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    A graphic update would be pretty cool, I like the game as is enough that if they were like "this or that" I'd probably pick that but these things don't always have to be false dilemmas. Obviously still costs money though lol, but if it's something they can do then that'd be awesome. Like for example they may have someone have "you need to finish the graphics for the new trial, and when you're done with that work on updating old armor" and the guy gets to put in 4 hours before they get new instructions and so over the course of many years it becomes "I finished updating old armor".

    So.. would be cool but I give it low priority. Some random would be nice:
    • Texture updates on the more pixel obvious items (like some armors and hairs)
    • Model improvments to characters (smoother body parts, our new race models for example appear smoother than our old races)
    • Better AA (if possible..)
    • 3d Water (most water in game is 2d, SE makes it work and look good but water is still unusually flat in most places lol)
    • Foliage physics (GW2 and WoW have it, it's entirely pointless but super cool to notice occasionally haha- would probably help with the car looking proper in high plant areas though)
    • Hair/Gear physics (in such a way to also promote avoiding clipping, seems rather difficult and nearly impossible but certainly "would be cool" )

    Something I've been wondering, and definitely way out of my wheel house so it's just "wondering", is if they could use the sort of deep learning AI like FFIX Moguri Mod and the FFVII graphic overhaul used to greatly smooth out the pixels from background images. In this way maybe it becomes more reasonable? Also maybe can sell classic FF7 bundled with FF7 Remake, with the improved graphics :3.
    Most of this I like, but the movement and hair physics is pretty resource heavy. Maybe PS5 could, with all that extra CPU power it's s'posed to have
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  3. #63
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrhin View Post
    Most of this I like, but the movement and hair physics is pretty resource heavy. Maybe PS5 could, with all that extra CPU power it's s'posed to have
    Yeah they even removed a lot of physics from 1.0 (pre-baked a lot of it back in, but still some is gone) and I imagine it was for this reason - loads of characters on screen? FPS, SAY HELLO TO THE GROUND! XD

    Might get away with some "only on self" sort of options, but I feel it'd be pretty awesome riding your horse, clothes, hair, and hair on your mount's mane flowing smoothly in the breeze. 11/10 screenshot lol, and all you need to do is install nitrogen cooling!
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  4. #64
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    Kirsten Revenant
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Yeah they even removed a lot of physics from 1.0 (pre-baked a lot of it back in, but still some is gone) and I imagine it was for this reason - loads of characters on screen? FPS, SAY HELLO TO THE GROUND! XD

    Might get away with some "only on self" sort of options, but I feel it'd be pretty awesome riding your horse, clothes, hair, and hair on your mount's mane flowing smoothly in the breeze. 11/10 screenshot lol, and all you need to do is install nitrogen cooling!
    Ironically, I'm fairly certain that most of the bells and whistles from XIV 1.0 that were stripped out for ARR weren't all that problematic by the time ARR actually released. 1.0 was way too resource-heavy for September 2010, but by August 2013 (ARR's release date), most computers could run 1.0 without too much trouble. Nowadays it would be a joke, and the PS4 could easily handle all of it as well. I know they lowered the polygon counts and texture resolutions so that they could cut corners on asset development, but whatever physics were used wouldn't pose any performance issues in 2019. Might be that the lowered polygon counts wouldn't have behaved well with more advanced hair physics, for example. Hard to say.
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  5. #65
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    Conjurer Lv 84
    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    They might as well just make a whole new game.
    2.0 was completely new game code but those that wrote it clearly had no or very limited experience of MMO design.

    When they axed the 1.x staff they also axed MMO developers.
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  6. #66
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    Aveline Dawnguard
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    To be honest, best bang for development buck would be an optional HD texture pack for PC and ps4 pro. I think that alone would go a long way.

    It would also have absolutely no impact on server performance.
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  7. #67
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirsten_Rev View Post
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    Textures are a thing but there are all after effects to consider. And they are the real thing. We can't just update textures without some kind of lights adaptations. And if physics look weird, it could even look worst. Considering BDO and the evolution of the hardware, for sure they can do a more beautiful game... but what would be the cost?

    Don't get me wrong, I wish an graphic update. I was... kinda frightened to see a gun from close range in a cinematic, honestly it was ugly. But things are faster said than done, easier said than done. And on the other hand, I somehow wish a new game to start from scratch.
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  8. #68
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    Leowald Chestwood
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    Quote Originally Posted by SniperCT View Post
    To be honest, best bang for development buck would be an optional HD texture pack for PC and ps4 pro. I think that alone would go a long way.

    It would also have absolutely no impact on server performance.
    This.
    It would be optional for those who could run it and no stress on servers.
    All in all the game aged and really needs a graphic improvement.
    From Yoshi's words I understand that it will happen eventually, but when and to what extend nobody knows.
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  9. #69
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    I find it kinda pathetic to even think about server stress in 2019.
    That being said: gfx mods are pure client side, the server is not involved anyway.

    They should rework the physics first. I want to see less hair clipping and proper skirt/dress physics.
    That dresses always stand out as if there is some wire propping it up annoys the crap out of me.
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  10. #70
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    Momoida Jojoida
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    Halicarnassus
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    Sage Lv 100
    I feel like, for the art style and color palette of soft, earthy tones, the way the game looks is adequate. Would I like it if they smoothed out some edges? Sure, but it ain't all that important to me.

    I... really feel it for the dev team if and when we do get a graphical update. There is a ton of stuff to go through...
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