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  1. #21
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    ashwich's Avatar
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    Alion Darcia
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    You can't balance high risk high rewards. because people will eventually get good at taking those "risks" and it'll just be high rewards. Then DRK will become better than everybody else, and either get the nerf bat or become the mandatory meta.

    Besides, anytime they do any sort of risk / reward people will complain anyway. Just look at TBN. BUT MY 500 POTENCY.
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  2. #22
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    I don't trust any of you to play the current Dark Knight, let alone one that actively saps your own health.
    You shouldn't trust a Dark Knight anyway lol
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  3. #23
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    Elkarde Rylant
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    Zalera
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Healers are going to hate the class if Square Enix does that
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  4. #24
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    Coven Whitewolf
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nephyleem View Post
    You know, these "high-risk high-reward" tanky jobs that sacrifices their own HP to protect themselves or deliver strong blows?
    That literally steals vitality from their foes to survive?
    Makes shield out of their foes' blood?
    That do ACTUAL DARK STUFF.

    Does is speaks to anybody?
    Or is that just me? '^'
    Yeah, let me sacrifice my HP then just get slapped with a tankbuster move. /smart. It's a tank class, sacrificing HP to compete on the DPS scale is frankly absurd. I can see that if it were a DPS class... but it's not.
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  5. #25
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    Absimiliard's Avatar
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    Cassius Rex
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    Louisoix
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ashwich View Post
    Just look at TBN. BUT MY 500 POTENCY.
    People have been complaining about TBN since its introduction. This is nothing new. In any case, they do have a valid argument. No other tank has to kick their own DPS out from under themselves.
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  6. #26
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    Cacho'rro Dos'ventos
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    Behemoth
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    Yeah, let me sacrifice my HP then just get slapped with a tankbuster move. /smart. It's a tank class, sacrificing HP to compete on the DPS scale is frankly absurd. I can see that if it were a DPS class... but it's not.
    The funny thing is, that is exactly what superbolide does.
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  7. #27
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    Xia Thas
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    Excalibur
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    Gunbreaker Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Inuk9 View Post
    The funny thing is, that is exactly what superbolide does.
    Getting tired of the "Superbolide and die" memes and misconceptions, anyone who has touched the class longer than unlocking them will know you are FULLY INVINCIBLE for 8 seconds after popping it. All healing done to you is nothing but gains. If you are doing a dungeon and your healer can't top you up to at least 25-50% HP and you are all out of cooldowns / aurora then I got bad news for you and that group buddy.

    Living Dead however would be made WORSE than it already is with this DRK idea unless they change it. Imaging popping Living Dead, dying, procing it's effect, then keeping yourself at that low threshold for max deeps, which will then lead to the possible problem of exiting Living Dead with hp low enough to just get decked anyways.
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    Last edited by Xia_Thas; 07-26-2019 at 07:15 AM. Reason: typo

  8. #28
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    Rihan Nurarihyon
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I'm no tank expert, but couldn't they combat the issue with living /walking dead, by it giving a huge buff to healing until the checkpoint has been met? I.e a Regen could comfortably bring the Drk back to full health within a couple of ticks. Obviously, there would be a balance issue with this which I am not even going to stick my toe in.
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  9. #29
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    Yeah, let me sacrifice my HP then just get slapped with a tankbuster move. /smart. It's a tank class, sacrificing HP to compete on the DPS scale is frankly absurd. I can see that if it were a DPS class... but it's not.
    If you know the fight you'll know when to sac your HP. I mean I can applaud your attempts at an argument but it falls flat on it's face there.

    It's the same thing with foregoing a mechanics if you can push phases with your burst and help the raid.
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    Awful Name
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    You shouldn't trust a Dark Knight anyway lol
    Probably because people on the forums that throw their ideas around or try to justify bad play are the ones asking for HP sacrificing when they can't even play a tank correctly to begin with.
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