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    Player Yuyuka3's Avatar
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    Kyara Moonbane
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticm View Post
    I wouldn't use WHITE MAGE as an example of SE's responsiveness when it comes to adjusting healers LMAO! Obviously that goes without saying, WHM is the redheaded stepchild. But, historically SE is fairly responsive to SCH and AST complaints (even though they are a little slower when it comes to AST...). Given the amount of complaints on both sides of the pond towards these two jobs, and looking at SE's response to such in the past, I'd say the chances are very high of these two jobs receiving something, especially more than just MP adjustments.

    Forgive me, I assumed you were simply referring to SCH and AST receiving adjustments. If you're hoping for anything for WHM other than nerfs, then yes, expect the worst.
    Sad, but very, very true... which is why I'm so sick and tired about AST and especially SCH complaining. It always leads to the same end, WHM being the worst of the three. But by now, I'm rather sure that's what people actually want...
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    Billythepancake's Avatar
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuyuka3 View Post
    Sad, but very, very true... which is why I'm so sick and tired about AST and especially SCH complaining. It always leads to the same end, WHM being the worst of the three. But by now, I'm rather sure that's what people actually want...
    As a scholar main, I genuinely dont want WHM to be any worse. I think it should keep this DPS lead it has, or maybe even get a bigger one, to justify having a WHM over a sch/ast. I recognize SCH is as strong as ever, but my complaints, and the complaints of most, is not about its effectiveness but rather how engaging it is. At the end of the day, spamming 1 button and occasionally stopping to use an oGCD heal is not engaging. (Especially since you dont even stop that often. )

    I genuinely hope they keep WHM strong and engaging, but I dont think it was fair to gut the other 2 healers to achieve that goal, but I also dont think it'd be fair to make WHM weak to reach that goal either. Surely it's possible to have all three healers be effective AND fun to play.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

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    Trunks's Avatar
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    Kai Earendel
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    I genuinely hope they keep WHM strong and engaging
    I don't know about "engaging"... WHM is more or less the same it's always been. It's just that they nerfed healing into the ground, so there's actually a bit more use for some of our buttons. But ~90% of the time it's still just as boring as SCH. This is why a lot of WHMs are bristling at all of this complaining: you're now experiencing what our Job has been since the beginning of SB, and y'all are losing your minds. What's frustrating is that our feedback is routinely ignored, yet it's fully expected that SCH and AST will get at least some attention in the next patch. This is exactly what happened in Stormblood. It's just so frustrating.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuyuka3 View Post
    Sad, but very, very true... which is why I'm so sick and tired about AST and especially SCH complaining. .

    You realize that's one of the few recourses players who are unhappy with the job have other than quitting the game right?

    I don't want WHM to be left out just like I dont' want AST to be left out. I want all three damn healers to function WELL.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]