The Healer Double Standard

[fantasticm]

Truly wish i could believe that but after SB where whm was barely touched for ages (Planary Indulgence) to just making things bizarre (Emnity reduction on a lot of heals but gave assize 45s cd which negated the emnity reductions), the battle design team do not have a good track record for adjusting healers period (20% balance for 30s anyone), so the bar is extremely low right now for Tuesday.

I wouldn't use WHITE MAGE as an example of SE's responsiveness when it comes to adjusting healers LMAO! Obviously that goes without saying, WHM is the redheaded stepchild. But, historically SE is fairly responsive to SCH and AST complaints (even though they are a little slower when it comes to AST...). Given the amount of complaints on both sides of the pond towards these two jobs, and looking at SE's response to such in the past, I'd say the chances are very high of these two jobs receiving something, especially more than just MP adjustments.

Forgive me, I assumed you were simply referring to SCH and AST receiving adjustments. If you're hoping for anything for WHM other than nerfs, then yes, expect the worst.

[Yuyuka3]

I wouldn't use WHITE MAGE as an example of SE's responsiveness when it comes to adjusting healers LMAO! Obviously that goes without saying, WHM is the redheaded stepchild. But, historically SE is fairly responsive to SCH and AST complaints (even though they are a little slower when it comes to AST...). Given the amount of complaints on both sides of the pond towards these two jobs, and looking at SE's response to such in the past, I'd say the chances are very high of these two jobs receiving something, especially more than just MP adjustments.

Forgive me, I assumed you were simply referring to SCH and AST receiving adjustments. If you're hoping for anything for WHM other than nerfs, then yes, expect the worst.

Sad, but very, very true... which is why I'm so sick and tired about AST and especially SCH complaining. It always leads to the same end, WHM being the worst of the three. But by now, I'm rather sure that's what people actually want...

[Billythepancake]

Sad, but very, very true... which is why I'm so sick and tired about AST and especially SCH complaining. It always leads to the same end, WHM being the worst of the three. But by now, I'm rather sure that's what people actually want...

As a scholar main, I genuinely dont want WHM to be any worse. I think it should keep this DPS lead it has, or maybe even get a bigger one, to justify having a WHM over a sch/ast. I recognize SCH is as strong as ever, but my complaints, and the complaints of most, is not about its effectiveness but rather how engaging it is. At the end of the day, spamming 1 button and occasionally stopping to use an oGCD heal is not engaging. (Especially since you dont even stop that often. )

I genuinely hope they keep WHM strong and engaging, but I dont think it was fair to gut the other 2 healers to achieve that goal, but I also dont think it'd be fair to make WHM weak to reach that goal either. Surely it's possible to have all three healers be effective AND fun to play.

[Trunks]

I genuinely hope they keep WHM strong and engaging

I don't know about "engaging"... WHM is more or less the same it's always been. It's just that they nerfed healing into the ground, so there's actually a bit more use for some of our buttons. But ~90% of the time it's still just as boring as SCH. This is why a lot of WHMs are bristling at all of this complaining: you're now experiencing what our Job has been since the beginning of SB, and y'all are losing your minds. What's frustrating is that our feedback is routinely ignored, yet it's fully expected that SCH and AST will get at least some attention in the next patch. This is exactly what happened in Stormblood. It's just so frustrating.

[Deceptus]

Sad, but very, very true... which is why I'm so sick and tired about AST and especially SCH complaining. .

You realize that's one of the few recourses players who are unhappy with the job have other than quitting the game right?

I don't want WHM to be left out just like I dont' want AST to be left out. I want all three damn healers to function WELL.

[Crushnight]

I wouldn't use WHITE MAGE as an example of SE's responsiveness when it comes to adjusting healers LMAO! Obviously that goes without saying, WHM is the redheaded stepchild. But, historically SE is fairly responsive to SCH and AST complaints (even though they are a little slower when it comes to AST...). Given the amount of complaints on both sides of the pond towards these two jobs, and looking at SE's response to such in the past, I'd say the chances are very high of these two jobs receiving something, especially more than just MP adjustments.

Forgive me, I assumed you were simply referring to SCH and AST receiving adjustments. If you're hoping for anything for WHM other than nerfs, then yes, expect the worst.

I honestly hope they do not touch whm at all only ast and sch and for sch only stuff linked to aetherflow like SB energy drain or a potential i'm going to say it dreaded second DoT, ast needs a lot more adjustments.

I have seen them take too long in the past to fix critical healer flaws, 3.0 ast was very weak healing wise were told this very quickly took until 2 weeks after savage to finally get healing potencies buffed that may seem like a short time frame being 6 weeks after expansion launch, but its primary role was left far undertuned for too long, then you do have that 20% balance card which did not see a nerf until SB savage it was a problem from its adjustment in 3.4 it shouldn't have taken to 4.05 to go yea we may have overdid the balance card. Excog was a problem for a fair few patches.

Whm is certainly the one they barely touch but i feel that is because its rarely the problem the other 2 healers are most of the time, sch rained supreme for the majority of this game's lifespan, ast has fluctuated from broken undertuned mess to I BRING THE BALANCE to i'm good thanks for the weaving potential with cards to my god why you do dis, whm has only grown but throughout HW and SB it's growth was not substantial enough to compete with ast darting up higher, i feel that if SE had given whm this level of pdps in SB i doubt it would have been considered as bad but hindsight can't change past try to change the future i guess.