The "Wow Refugee's" impact on the FFXIV Community?

[Schan]

Yes, because you have empyrical data backing this 'stream' of WoW players pouring in overtime, right?

An undefinable number of non-deterministic factors have caused the attitude of this community to shift over the course of time. That is inevitable for ANY community. Change is undefiable.

Do you have empirical data to prove otherwise? You see, your argument goes both ways.

I think i've seen you posting several times demanding for this "empirical evidence" and "studies". It is quite frankly getting a bit annoying now to keep reading the same arguments over and over.

It is a fact that companies run their own numbers but said numbers are never ever known to the players. At best we do have anedotal experience and "guesstimates".

Toxicity has always been here. Usually on a lesser degree as other games but that also depends on the nature of the game and the type of behaviour devs promote. FF14 is largely a cooperative game. It also requires of you to have some sort of endurance / patience to stomach the MSQ (b4 skips) since it doesn't really let you power through to max level.
WoW... well you have 2 factions that are at war with each other and you can technically kill people from the other faction so by its own nature if foments a bit more of that tribalistic "us vs them" behaviour gamers tend towards (console wars anyone?), which in turn turn people more into trash talking and toxicity if taken towards an extreme.

Not saying that traits of them don't overlap. you can see way more toxicity in FF14's pvp mode (i don't fully understand why competition in general turns people into asshats in games...) and raiding in wow requires people to work together but im rambling at this point...