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    Quote Originally Posted by Machka View Post
    Yet it's usually only tanks that you see having meltdowns over minor inconveniences like this. The reason for that is a sense of entitlement that some tank players seem to have. A sense of entitlement that we have been shown examples of all throughout this thread.
    I think you need to know you're really only seeing what you want to see. I see DPS constantly having meltdowns because I don't pull the boss fast enough and they lose their combo or buff or something. Like oh no the dungeon will take an extra 30 seconds, better try to kick the tank over it. Meanwhile I hardly ever see tanks getting upset by things. So which one of us is right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    I think you need to know you're really only seeing what you want to see. I see DPS constantly having meltdowns because I don't pull the boss fast enough and they lose their combo or buff or something. Like oh no the dungeon will take an extra 30 seconds, better try to kick the tank over it. Meanwhile I hardly ever see tanks getting upset by things. So which one of us is right?
    You see, that is the exact sort of warped mindset I'm talking about. A dps going ahead and attacking something to keep their stacks is not a meltdown. It's not even in the same galaxy as a tank stopping to type so they can assert their dominance, or even refusing to tank altogether like OP did (and many people in this thread have been saying they do too). You're the one seeing only what you want to see.

    Do you mostly only play as a tank? If so, there's your answer as to why you might hardly ever see it. And as I said in a much earlier comment, if you are frequently seeing dps pull ahead of you that just means you are frequently going too slow.

    Edit: Also, to respond to your last point, we're discussing this in a thread full of tanks talking about how they get upset by things. Some are even talking about how they respond to those sorts of situations by having a meltdown. Refusing to do your job as a tank and deliberately letting a party member keep aggro and die is having a meltdown. So how much either of us think we see it is kind of a moot point - this thread basically speaks for itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machka View Post
    You see, that is the exact sort of warped mindset I'm talking about. A dps going ahead and attacking something to keep their stacks is not a meltdown. It's not even in the same galaxy as a tank stopping to type so they can assert their dominance, or even refusing to tank altogether like OP did (and many people in this thread have been saying they do too). You're the one seeing only what you want to see.

    Do you mostly only play as a tank? If so, there's your answer as to why you might hardly ever see it. And as I said in a much earlier comment, if you are frequently seeing dps pull ahead of you that just means you are frequently going too slow.
    It truly floors me that your reading comprehension is so poor and you're so dead-set on this fantasy you've cooked up for yourself. I never said the DPS pulling something is a meltdown. I mentioned them trying to kick the tank because they can't be arsed to be in the dungeon for an extra 30 seconds. I'd quote that part for you, but I assume you read it since you quoted my entire post. Apparently not.

    I've played as all roles, and I've actually tanked the least out of all of them. Yet still, I've seen entitled DPS more no matter what role I'm in. Fancy that.

    Just as a preemptive time saver, don't bother arguing with me further if you're not going to read all of what you're quoting. You literally ignored a vital part of my statement in order to twist things to make you appear right. I believe that's called "cherry picking". Try not to do that anymore, okay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    It truly floors me that your reading comprehension is so poor and you're so dead-set on this fantasy you've cooked up for yourself. I never said the DPS pulling something is a meltdown. I mentioned them trying to kick the tank because they can't be arsed to be in the dungeon for an extra 30 seconds. I'd quote that part for you, but I assume you read it since you quoted my entire post. Apparently not.

    I've played as all roles, and I've actually tanked the least out of all of them. Yet still, I've seen entitled DPS more no matter what role I'm in. Fancy that.

    Just as a preemptive time saver, don't bother arguing with me further if you're not going to read all of what you're quoting. You literally ignored a vital part of my statement in order to twist things to make you appear right. I believe that's called "cherry picking". Try not to do that anymore, okay?
    Oh I'm ever so sorry that I've ruffled your feathers. Do accept my sincerest apologies for having not replied according to your lofty standards, my good sir. I did not realize that, in your magnificence, your time is so valuable that I am encouraged, nay, compelled to make sure you don't let a single minute of it go to waste whilst conversing on an electronic forum.

    Anyways, sure yeah, I acknowledge I didn't respond 'kicking tank over wanting a dungeon to go 30 seconds faster' line. If that line is that important to you though, I'm happy to oblige.
    In a nutshell - LOL I have never seen that happen before. What a silly idea. Just getting a tank kicked and replaced would take longer than 30 seconds, even if a replacement tank appears instantly and starts sprinting over from the checkpoint. Any players that truly cared about things going 30s faster would not waste time arguing - they would just continue killing things. And in any content where a tank isn't even necessary, players who care about going fast would just keep going. Because arguing over this kind of stuff in a dungeon wastes time.

    So either you/those tanks you saw got kicked for something other than simply 'people wanted to go 30 seconds faster', or you're just making this up for the sake of trying to make your point. I didn't respond to that line b/c it was so ridiculous I didn't feel it warranted a response. If that was a vital part of your statement, I'm very sorry for your statement, but it now holds even less water than it did earlier. You can be as condescending as you like but it won't change the facts. I'm not even arguing with you. This entire thread is chock full of tanks who get upset over the minor inconveniences I was referring to. Just go and read them yourself. You do so value reading comprehension, right? :^)

    And seriously though, that last line of yours is exactly the sort of imperious diva attitude many of us have been trying to point out here. It's not very healthy, and definitely isn't a good look.
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