Gunbreaker is more Siefer than Squall. A disappointing realization.

[Valic]

People can only be disappointed if they had expectations,obviously. You might be right that they overuse the term, or maybe if not we should ask what did they expect and why. I think i am lucky that i have no prior experience with ff games and don't know anything about the jobs and names, what ever the devs of ff14 do, i simply cant relate to prior experiences.

PS: i saw a screenshot on reddit that the female pose with the weapon unsheathed is the same as "lightnings" from ff13.

This. My only expectation was that "its using a gunblade". the fact it has all of the same limit break names for every single skill form each character, gets the revolver from Squall for the expansion collector's edition, and the /bstance was just icing on top of it all. Blasting Zone was prolly what made me super hyped, I honestly thought that'd be more of an LB thing, raising the sword and making a barrier out of the rianbowy/aurora thing. I think that's the main thing I love about FF14 (and why I hated SB's most of the 8 man raids in SB up until alphascape), is that they don't directly pull 100% from previous games. They remember the idea and find an interesting way to incorporate it into FFXIV. Red Mage prolly being the biggest testament to that, using all forms of spells master of none but in here its got melee and ranged and a rapier and a THINGAMABOB! I had no experience with any other FF's other than FF8, only heard about the others and "knew" about them but otherwise, everything we get from the majority of primal fights to jobs, is always a reference, not a direct copy/paste majority of the time. And thats cool because then it makes FF14 something unique to experience but also gives old FF players something akin to a nod like "ayy, you recognize this thing right?"

It was obvious to me from the AF set alone. The jacket IS Seifer's.

I wouldn't even say that tbh, its got more armor and doodads on it. Its as much the same as saying they're both trenchcoats... thats about it lol. Not that I'm disappointed by it, I in fact like the aesthetic, though I do kinda wish they put a slit in the back of it because it can look pretty droopy on some races but better on others. I'm SUPER excited to see our relic weapons though because the fact the name of the GNB AF wep is "Lionheart" tells me we're prolly gonna get the good ol blue lionheart we upgrade to in the old game, if not something close or cooler looking. Here's to hoping they don't lock it behind the next "Eureka" though lol.

I mean....... we already have the weapon and squall's clothes from the rewards thing. Like the job is fine as is and reps both Squall and Siefer.... if you're digging anymore then that I feel like you're reachign too far. Enjoy the job... WE GOT A FREAKING GUN BREAKER!!!!!! Like that is what I should be seeing.. not nit picks about stances and whatnot. THe sounds make sense tho as I didn't know people hated the ones at the start.

I have been screaming this since the start of this thread lmao. And same, I really thought it was just a very few and one lil thread about it, I didn't expect such a drastic change for such little complaints. Now there's just a TON of complaints from something that... probably didn't need any changes and sounded fine on its own. I think people jumped the gun 3 weeks into an expac on this too. Funny enough, you can hear how the old solid barrel combo sounds if you watch the GNB first cutscene the Hrothgar uses the combo on someone.

[Allyrion]

I’m a fan of GNB’s form because it actually looks a lot like Auron.

I love FF8 and all. But we’ve got plenty from Squall and Seifer baked into the Job. I will agree, it naturally leans more towards Seifer but that’s because he looks more like a tank than Squall does.

Well, in terms of using 2 hands that wouldn’t make it look less like a tank, true. But because it looks like Auron was more of a tank than either Seifer or Squall put together, I completely support the way he wields it. It’s an odd mix but it works.

I do believe FFXIV is its own thing and it pulls from the other games but it’s never beholden to them. That’s how you can get amazing combinations like what we have now.

Also, I’m pretty sure changing all the animations is just never going to happen. But this feedback may make them think about adding more 2H animations next expansion. I don’t mind either way, once it fits and looks good.

[Daralii]

I’m a fan of GNB’s form because it actually looks a lot like Auron.

I love FF8 and all. But we’ve got plenty from Squall and Seifer baked into the Job. I will agree, it naturally leans more towards Seifer but that’s because he looks more like a tank than Squall does.

Well, in terms of using 2 hands that wouldn’t make it look less like a tank, true. But because it looks like Auron was more of a tank than either Seifer or Squall put together, I completely support the way he wields it. It’s an odd mix but it works.

I do believe FFXIV is its own thing and it pulls from the other games but it’s never beholden to them. That’s how you can get amazing combinations like what we have now.

Also, I’m pretty sure changing all the animations is just never going to happen. But this feedback may make them think about adding more 2H animations next expansion. I don’t mind either way, once it fits and looks good.

Squall was the most innately durable party member in VIII, and both ended up as knights defending a sorceress. Both them and Lightning(to a lesser extent) are present in GNB's animations.

[MagiusNecros]

Gunbreaker is more a mix of Squall and Seifer IMO.

Especially since Gunbreaker features attacks from both.

Squall : Renzokuken ( Continuation), Rough Divide, Fated Circle, Blasting Zone

Seifer : No Mercy, Lightning Shot (the actual LB attack of No Mercy), Demon Slice/Slaughter, Bloodfest (It functions more like Draw though)

I wonder if we will get the real Demon Slice and Bloodfest/Blood Carnival in a later xpac. Zantetsuken Reverse would be great too.

[Xia_Thas]

When the debate over stances and design aspects are more heated than discussions about balance.

Also I feel that BECAUSE Squall is the go to Nostalgic Gunblade user that it is a good thing there’s more references to other users than just him. I’m just waiting for some Garlean style skills like Gaius’

[EdwinLi]

Kind of fits our personality don't you think?

When the player base wanted Gunbalde Jobs they were basically acting like Siefer wanting to be a Sorcerer's Knight.

When the debate over stances and design aspects are more heated than discussions about balance.

Also I feel that BECAUSE Squall is the go to Nostalgic Gunblade user that it is a good thing there’s more references to other users than just him. I’m just waiting for some Garlean style skills like Gaius’

I honestly think if they go Garlean Gunblader then it may be a different Job due to Gunbreaker's lore establishing Gunbreaker Gunblade and Garlean gunblade being different weapons due to their deisgn and functions

The Gunbreaker seem to be focus on being the Squall and Siefer Job by design.

[Xia_Thas]

I honestly think if they go Garlean Gunblader then it may be a different Job due to Gunbreaker's lore establishing Gunbreaker Gunblade and Garlean gunblade being different weapons due to their deisgn and functions

The Gunbreaker seem to be focus on being the Squall and Siefer Job by design.

True enough, the Garlean weaponry is also quite varied, we see regular gunblades, gunpikes, a freaking gungreatsword. The likelihood they make a Garlean based class seems slim but would be interesting, a Garlean deserter giving away Empire secrets to Eorzean heroes.

[EdwinLi]

True enough, the Garlean weaponry is also quite varied, we see regular gunblades, gunpikes, a freaking gungreatsword. The likelihood they make a Garlean based class seems slim but would be interesting, a Garlean deserter giving away Empire secrets to Eorzean heroes.

That is not a far off thing considering we know there are plenty of garlean deserters. Also, plenty of Garlean gunblades tend to be left behind in areas once occupied by Garleans and sometimes people may take those Gunblades as weapons such as in Stormblood side quest where a certain fish merchant sold a entire town Garlean Gunblades he found.

[aqskerorokero]

Seifer is cooler than Squall, I am happy with our GNB.

[Azerhan]

I don't care a lot about if the GNB is made from Seifer or Squall.

And I'm happy about what I have, because this tank we have right now is completely different from the other 3 tanks.