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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyKairi View Post
    IIt's really disheartening to have those like me get shot down by the "casual" crowd (I cringe with that word but I don't know how else to address this specific group of people) just for asking for a specific group of content we like to be added to a bit. It's almost like they don't want us to be happy. They don't want us to have more content we love, even though most of this game caters to them. We only get a sliver of the entire pie. Comments like "well I have plenty to do" "I never run out of things to do" "if anything there's too much to do" irk me. If that's the case where you have all this stuff to keep you entertained, why is it such a bad thing to share? I honestly think its a bit selfish to hoard it all to yourself when you're just drowning in content. Personally, I don't even care to have 50%, but I think its wrong to not even be willing to give up even a tiny bit so more people can be happy and stay subbed. Its honestly childish. We are paying customers too. While we are not the majority, we still deserve to be happy in the game that we love. We don't want everything to ourselves like you guys do.

    Our community has grown a lot, so that means SE is getting even more money from us/this game. They could stand to invest more back into it.
    Unfortunately, they don't. A lot of "casual" players bemoan anything that one might classify as "end game" because it's content they cannot participate in. Look no further than the initial backlash Ultimate incurred. It only simmered down because of how successful Ultimate wound up being. Even for content much easier than Ultimate, if people dislike raids... well, they're going to push against adding more bosses. At least some are. They tend to be very loud though. FFXIV does a lot of things right, however unless you dabble in almost everything the game simply lacks content at max level. I wholly agree it's a silly argument when people point to crafters, level all your jobs to 80 or god forbid Trusts (Seriously. Some are trying to argue Trusts are "end game."). Not everyone has any interest playing every job. So why level them? If you aren't ever going to play a healer because you dislike that playstyle, well, that isn't content for you. The same applies with crafters. Now obviously not every piece of content can cater towards everyone but when it comes to max level the game often lacks.

    What irks me is how the devs seem so reluctant to implement a Mythic+ like system. You essentially reuse every dungeon but make them challenging. Not too challenging but enough to actually hurt you. Throw in some decent rewards or hey, make cool achievements actually worth getting instead of crap like complete 5,000 FATEs. Bam! More end game content, done on the cheap.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramesses View Post
    Go and level all your Trusts and your crafts to 80... then we'll chat.
    I sincerely hope this is meant to be ironic. Leveling Trusts is little more than busywork. If you're perfectly content using Duty Finder, they are completely worthless. Pointing to Trusts as "end game" content is just... frankly, ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
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    Because dev's don't grow on trees neither is the money ? Or maybe because they are humain being that need to sleep and sustaining themselves with nutriment daily ? lets overwork them to death to finaly still not be able to please everybody at the same time, I'm sure its gonna end well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    Because dev's don't grow on trees neither is the money ? Or maybe because they are humain being that need to sleep and sustaining themselves with nutriment daily ? lets overwork them to death to finaly still not be able to please everybody at the same time, I'm sure its gonna end well.
    When people complain about lack of content, they aren't necessarily talking about the dev team but Square Enix itself. You know, the billion dollar company. FFXIV funded the development of FFXV and FFVII Remake—the latter of which will probably be one of the highest grossing games of its generation. A significant amount of our sub money goes into other SE projects, including their mobile division. Considering mobile games basically print money, and SE has been caught several times now with some rather sleazy cash grabs (google All the Bravest). I think they have more than enough money. For the development team. If I recall, FFXIV has a bigger team than WoW. The issue is very few can develop battle content. Money is not remotely a factor nor are people faulting Yoshida.

    This is typically a SE problem, though I do look at flops like Blue Mage and question it but c'est la vie.
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