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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylessa View Post
    Welp, it seems someone doxed Scottzone's home address and sent him a death threat also. So for the people who doubted whether Lazy Peon received death threats yes, like most gaming communities, there is a small section of fans who are rabid and outright disgusting in their sick devotion to their favorite video game. This community isn't immune from that.
    Who would have thought that this community can't take any criticism toward their beloved game. And I thought FF14 community is the best in regards to being friendly towards new people. A damn shame really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojokomoko View Post
    Who would have thought that this community can't take any criticism toward their beloved game. And I thought FF14 community is the best in regards to being friendly towards new people. A damn shame really.
    Indeed... A whole lot of people making generalizations here...
    "All hardcore raiders are toxic", "casuals should just stfu" and "a handful people doxxing a YouTuber means "Great community btw""
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojokomoko View Post
    Who would have thought that this community can't take any criticism toward their beloved game. And I thought FF14 community is the best in regards to being friendly towards new people. A damn shame really.
    Excuse me? Where did it say in the contract that I must agree 100% with everything scottzone says?

    Where did it say I am no longer allowed to disagree?

    The FF14 community isn't a bunch of sheep that blindfully agrees with whatever is stated to them.

    People have free will, they have a brain, and when they disagree with something, they have every right to state their disagreement.

    If you criticize something, and are then upset when people disagree, it means you can give it, but you can't take it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Learning View Post
    Excuse me? Where did it say in the contract that I must agree 100% with everything scottzone says?

    Where did it say I am no longer allowed to disagree?

    The FF14 community isn't a bunch of sheep that blindfully agrees with whatever is stated to them.

    People have free will, they have a brain, and when they disagree with something, they have every right to state their disagreement.

    If you criticize something, and are then upset when people disagree, it means you can give it, but you can't take it!
    Scottzone didn't get upset when people disagreed, he's fine with discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylessa View Post
    Scottzone didn't get upset when people disagreed, he's fine with discussion.
    He posted an entire video where the entire focus was on the criticism he received during his stream.

    Meaning, he had a conversation on stream where he disagreed with people.

    Instead of just moving on, he posted a 12 minute video re-hashing the whole argument, along with a complain that people can't take MMO criticism.

    Then, he also posts on Twitter about it:
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    Despite gushing about Final Fantasy for months, saying I think it does an incredible job at providing large amounts of content for a variety of players. A small criticism on a personal feeling towards packaged raid content and people think I'm asking for WoW 2.0?
    ***
    It's now been almost three days, and he hasn't posted a single video, or made a single tweet, and he's streamed less.

    To me, these are all signs of someone that got triggered and is having difficulty moving on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Learning View Post
    He posted an entire video where the entire focus was on the criticism he received during his stream.

    Meaning, he had a conversation on stream where he disagreed with people.

    Instead of just moving on, he posted a 12 minute video re-hashing the whole argument, along with a complain that people can't take MMO criticism.

    Then, he also posts on Twitter about it:
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    Despite gushing about Final Fantasy for months, saying I think it does an incredible job at providing large amounts of content for a variety of players. A small criticism on a personal feeling towards packaged raid content and people think I'm asking for WoW 2.0?
    ***
    It's now been almost three days, and he hasn't posted a single video, or made a single tweet, and he's streamed less.

    To me, these are all signs of someone that got triggered and is having difficulty moving on.
    He had to clarify his points a few times because people kept misunderstanding what he was saying. The twitter post was also him clarifying that he wasn't calling for WoW 2.0. He hasn't streamed a video for 3 days because 2 days ago he received a death threat.

    He was triggered, just not by criticism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylessa View Post
    He had to clarify his points a few times because people kept misunderstanding what he was saying. The twitter post was also him clarifying that he wasn't calling for WoW 2.0. He hasn't streamed a video for 3 days because 2 days ago he received a death threat.

    He was triggered, just not by criticism.
    The fanbase becomes rabid when you critique anything they like, or try to offer suggestions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylessa View Post
    He had to clarify his points a few times because people kept misunderstanding what he was saying. The twitter post was also him clarifying that he wasn't calling for WoW 2.0. He hasn't streamed a video for 3 days because 2 days ago he received a death threat.

    He was triggered, just not by criticism.
    I hate saying this, but - that's life.

    It would be great if people didn't do things like that, but they do, and I hate saying this - they do it rather frequently.

    Feel free to go google "I received a death threat" and see how common it's done, to people from all walks of life.

    This is the price you pay when you live in the public sphere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Learning View Post
    Excuse me? Where did it say in the contract that I must agree 100% with everything scottzone says?

    Where did it say I am no longer allowed to disagree?

    The FF14 community isn't a bunch of sheep that blindfully agrees with whatever is stated to them.

    People have free will, they have a brain, and when they disagree with something, they have every right to state their disagreement.

    If you criticize something, and are then upset when people disagree, it means you can give it, but you can't take it!
    I'm sorry if I came off kind of heated, but I just saw him breakdown over at his steam due to a death threat. Disagreement is fine, but when it comes down to sending death threat and calling names (Just look at his Youtube comment on the video), this is where the line should be drawn. "Go play another game" "Go back to WoW" "It's your fault, not the game" "You have no life if you're running out of things to do" Just looking at this thread for crying out loud. People can't even give a legitimate criticism here.
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