Quote Originally Posted by Sinh119 View Post
Seemingly unpopular opinion here, but I’m really liking Summoner right now. I haven’t had any difficulty managing egi-assaults and I found I can pump out really good numbers. Phoenix is amazing to use, and I really like that using Ruin actually feels impactful now. My only complaint is that Demi-Bahamut feels a bit awkward to use, but overall I’m enjoying the changes. I’ve heard a lot of complaints about us being a ruin mage, about having to stare at the hotbar constantly, about having to work far harder for mediocre output etc... but I haven’t noticed any of those things. I don’t doubt that people are having issues with the job design this expansion, but I don’t think the negative feedback is as widespread as the official forums would have you believe for any job. Remember the official forums sole purpose is for feedback, so negative criticism is far more prominently featured than it would be on another medium.
Have you played Summoner in high-end content? Against a target dummy the class is fine, but it struggles heavily against other things, such as boss mechanics. On Titania especially, the bars get massively delayed, and the class is punished massively for any and all movement it has to do because of how limited its ruin 4s are compared to just how much movement it has.

Any movement that happens outside of DWT is massively punished, and movement during DB or DP is extremely punished as well, through no fault of the summoner regardless of how well you position or play. Simply because the pet will move before it autos, and it will drop auto attacks because of this.

The class lacks real flow, and it comes out most once it's introduced into boss mechanics and you realize just why certain mechanics ruin its overall flow, and 60% of the problem is from cooldowns desyncing, 20% from DP/DB dropping autos, and the rest from spamming way too many oGCDs.

Hell, if you played the class you'd realize the natural place to use devotion is during DWT, but if you do, your next devotion is guaranteed to be during FBT, when you literally cannot use it because DP is up, forcing you to save the cooldown.

You can like the class, you can have fun with it, but I can guarantee you that you're being personally affected by all of these issues regardless of whether you realize it.