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  1. #1
    Player
    Drayos's Avatar
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    Sethra Rage
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 80

    Alot of hate on new job iterations o.O

    Is there anyone who’s actually enjoying their job?? I seeing a lot of negativity on almost every job the game offers currently,
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    Ferth's Avatar
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    Ferth Fontaine
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    I love BLM... but it has almost no changes from StBl blm, and what did change were a few minor QOL abilities and single target versions of our hard hitting aoes...
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    Raldo's Avatar
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    Raldo Volca
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    Criticism tends to come from a place of love, rather than hate. If you hate a job, you'll just play something else and not care what they do to it. If you like a job, it's easy to spot some things that could be improved. You won't find me commenting on the healer threads, for example, because I'm not a fan of healing. It's a safe bet that the people complaining are still invested in the jobs they're complaining about.

    Overall, I think most of the sentiments I've heard (except, perhaps, from certain healers) have been relatively positive.

    I've only leveled two jobs to 80 thus far:
    BRD - Didn't change much. Still enjoy it, though I'll admit that the lv80 ability is... lackluster.
    MCH - Changed a lot. Love it, but I could also get on board with a number of tweaks to improve its playability.

    and only dabbled in a couple other jobs:
    DNC - Eh. It's not for me, but I can see why others might enjoy it. I'll level it to 80 anyway, just because I level everything.
    WAR - Didn't change much. Not a fan of the new AOE combo though. Conal-aoe > circle-aoe? Who thought that was a good idea?
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    Last edited by Raldo; 07-12-2019 at 02:09 AM.

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    Idolon's Avatar
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    Rinh Maimhov
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    People who dislike the changes come here to complain. People who like the changes tend not to post anything, probably because they're too busy playing the game.

    I, for one, am loving how the new Machinist plays, though I haven't had a chance to use it in many longer fights yet, so it's possible I just haven't run into any problems it has.
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    K'ahli K'uhla'tor
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    The forums tends to exaggerate a lot of the dissatisfaction people have with Jobs because it's where we come to give feedback, and the people most incentivized to actually provide that feedback are people who aren't satisfied. Someone on Reddit did a poll on how people felt about their Main jobs, which was then aggregated by a JP user and for the most part people were happy.

    Key: Dark Red: Very Satisfied, Light Red: Somewhat Satisfied, Yellow: Indifferent, light blue: Somewhat Dissatisfied, Dark Blue:Very Dissatisfied.

    While it isn't perfect since r/FFXIV isn't necessarily representative of the entire player base, it is a decent visualization on how people are probably feeling about it. Pretty much every job is getting at least a 70% general satisfaction or at the very least, 80% aren't unhappy with them. The only jobs that are complete botches to the players are Monk, Scholar and Astro. Everyone else is relatively happy.
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    Last edited by SpeckledBurd; 07-12-2019 at 02:13 AM.

  6. #6
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    Adonan's Avatar
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    Character
    Klifur Yadai
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    I don't hate any of the changes, I just think some of them aren't the best. In fact, the only changes I don't like are those to the AST and BRD. BLM is the class I currently like the most (always has been), and the rest of them are alright.
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    Character
    Sana Cetonis
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    SE made job changes with new players in mind as the target audience, at times to the exclusion of what people currently playing the job might have liked about it. So yes, there are some jobs with a lot of frustrated former-mains.

    There's also some bias in an official forum context, because this is the only way non-JP players have to endeavor to communicate with devs. So even if a job is broadly like but just has some QoL concerns, those will get posted here because it's not like there's any other way to express those kinds of requests to SE. And anyone with any sort of gripe large, small, founded or not, will post them here because that's just what you're supposed to do.
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    Character
    Crimson Bloodrose
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    SAM - Apparently plays well but has mediocre numbers. People are generally happy but would like slightly better damage.

    MNK - Good numbers but plays strange. People aren't very happy.

    NIN - Average numbers but good raid contribution like always. Apparently complicated. I think people are generally pleased with it.

    DRG - Very good numbers (possibly too good), flows well, good raid contribution. People are very happy with it.

    BRD
    - Apparently plays well but a good chunk of people are displeased with most of the removal of their support kit. Mixed feelings here. Some are happy, some are not.

    MCH - Plays well. Very straightforward from what I've heard. Good numbers. People are happy.

    RDM - Plays well. Has a few mana issues though. Other than that people aren't complaining much about it. Hasn't changed much since SB. People are generally happy with it.

    BLM - Extremely good numbers. Lots of QoL changes. Better mobility, downtimes aren't a problem anymore with this class. People are very happy with it.

    DNC - No idea. All I've heard is that the class is easy and relatively fun. I'd say most are content with it.

    SMN -https://media.giphy.com/media/WtCcLH...ggxH/giphy.gif
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    Last edited by Gallus; 07-12-2019 at 02:17 AM.

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    MyrunFeiign's Avatar
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    Myrun Feiign
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Drayos View Post
    Is there anyone who’s actually enjoying their job?? I seeing a lot of negativity on almost every job the game offers currently,
    I'm loving the Summoner changes. Yes it was a new learning curve but that was to be expected. I personally think its still too early for people to be complaining.
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  10. #10
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    ShadowNyx3's Avatar
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    Character
    Aloh'ir Lazoran
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Yeah the sample size on that poll was definitely skewed towards newer or more casual Summoners. Look in most places and it's being eviscerated just as much as it's being praised, including the JP forums.

    I also don't see a vote count so for all we know that's like 1000 people.
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