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  1. #71
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    Feidam's Avatar
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    Aenn Do'chas
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyomagi View Post
    No, the problem is the players complaining about the new people watching cutscenes while everyone else runs off ahead. If you can live with out the huge EXP bonus, dont do MSQ and respect the new people trying to enjoy the story
    This. We have the unskippable cutscenes because players behaved poorly. Now we have players behaving poorly again going afk hoping for a free ride. I love how everything is SE’s responsibility when Players should take responsibility for their own actions. Don’t want to participate in the dungeon because you find it boring the don’t queue. It really is that simple. Players have the choice to enter that roulette we are not forced. It’s just exp and tomes. There are other avenues to obtain those.
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  2. #72
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    Nixxe's Avatar
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    Nixx Delumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyomagi View Post
    No, the problem is the players complaining about the new people watching cutscenes while everyone else runs off ahead. If you can live with out the huge EXP bonus, dont do MSQ and respect the new people trying to enjoy the story
    Let's not exaggerate. The "problem" wasn't complaining that new people watch cutscenes–you can clear MSQ roulette with like -3 players, so nobody really cared if people watched them. The issue was simply that new players got left behind and/or missed cutscenes because they were in one when another one got triggered or w/e.
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  3. #73
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    NekoNova's Avatar
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    Olivar Starblaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    Let's not exaggerate. The "problem" wasn't complaining that new people watch cutscenes–you can clear MSQ roulette with like -3 players, so nobody really cared if people watched them. The issue was simply that new players got left behind and/or missed cutscenes because they were in one when another one got triggered or w/e.
    It's not an exxageration.
    People who run this the first time should be able to watch and experience the content as it was intended.
    Not get told to "watch it in the inn" or have their experience ruined because Mr Joe runs it for the millionth time and can't be bothered to wait.
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    Olivar Starblaze
    Onion Knight - Lalafell Carbuncle Retainer
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  4. #74
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    Really it should be a player choice to watch cut scenes or not,
    Arr is already a drag think this just adds to the issue some new/lower level.
    Sure this is a okay bandaid to castrum and prae but really wish they would rework these into something more friendly to all.
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  5. #75
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    Hysterior's Avatar
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    Larek Darkholme
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    It is a very weird roulette. Still the same 2 dungeons... I have done it a couple of times to try levelling a bit faster but it is too painful to continue, personally.
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

  6. #76
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    Nixx Delumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoNova View Post
    It's not an exxageration.
    People who run this the first time should be able to watch and experience the content as it was intended.
    Not get told to "watch it in the inn" or have their experience ruined because Mr Joe runs it for the millionth time and can't be bothered to wait.
    It is an exaggeration. They were told to watch it in the inn because it would allow them to view everything in order and at their own pace, not because people are that bothered by some random sprout is watching cutscenes instead of fighting. Even now when I run it, nobody stops to figure out if the rest of the group is with them. It's just a mad dash to the finish, and whoever gets to a boss first will pull it immediately.
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  7. #77
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    Misutoraru's Avatar
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    I have no idea why this thread drag out so many page
    Cut scene unskippable buggering you? Don’t queue for it.
    AFK in this? Don’t be surprise if you got kick
    The reward/time spend wasn’t even that good, it is only when I run the same dungeon 4 times in a row, it is nice to run something different
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  8. #78
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    Krystal Abyss
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    They could also fix the dungeons instead of encourage people to be there only for the overinflated rewards.

    Braindead content + massive reward = people afk. It's a simple equation, and putting in more and more stopgaps isn't going to fix the underlying problem of the content being garbage on repeat.
    I rely on MSQ roulette for leveling. Let it stay unless there's another option for a mass of exp and tomes that good daily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

  9. #79
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    Aenn Do'chas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    It is an exaggeration. They were told to watch it in the inn because it would allow them to view everything in order and at their own pace, not because people are that bothered by some random sprout is watching cutscenes instead of fighting. Even now when I run it, nobody stops to figure out if the rest of the group is with them. It's just a mad dash to the finish, and whoever gets to a boss first will pull it immediately.
    Hardly, people got upset all the time. Complained about carrying noobs, flamed them for not watching them in the inn among others. Furthermore, the dungeon was meant to be run with the cutscenes.(in hindsight not the best choice, but it is what it is.) Watching them in the inn was/is not the same. This change is in place to preserve the experience for new players.
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  10. #80
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    Nariel Cendrenuit
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Feidam View Post
    Hardly, people got upset all the time. Complained about carrying noobs, flamed them for not watching them in the inn among others. Furthermore, the dungeon was meant to be run with the cutscenes.(in hindsight not the best choice, but it is what it is.) Watching them in the inn was/is not the same. This change is in place to preserve the experience for new players.
    is that so ? really ? I can't remember seeing it happen since years, and when it does the salty boy get put in place by the rest of the group because most people aren't rude jerk. And the guy often got the kick in place of the first timer so yeah, don't know what you DC is but I'm glad its not mine.

    Its always was about proposing to newcomer the best experience possible of them, speedrunner didn't have time to complaign they were out in less than 10 min and didn't even took the time to look behind them, so having a rant in the game chat about "uurrr durr first timer is baaaad" wasn't happenning that often it was a problem.
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    Last edited by Nariel; 07-18-2019 at 02:00 AM.

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